Can't believe there isn't a thread about this. Unbelievably stupid comments from the two of them and come across wholly ignorant. There wasn't even a humorous tone to their discussion, they really believed what they were saying.
Not a massive fan of Gray but even less of a fan of Keys; hope he gets sacked.
Haven't really read or listened to any of this, am I right in thinking they took the mickey out of a female lines-person, when they thought the mic was off? Is that the extent of it?
Pair of cnuts.
Ricky1985 wrote:Haven't really read or listened to any of this, am I right in thinking they took the mickey out of a female lines-person, when they thought the mic was off? Is that the extent of it?
Yeah, that's about the size of it Ricky. Quite embarrassing really as she made an accurate call on a contentious incident.
y va marquer wrote:I actually think it's ridiculous that Gray and Keyes got suspended for something that was said in private, off air, never meant to be broadcast.
It would be akin to being overheard having a conversation in the work place and being suspended because whoever overheard it was offended by the content of the conversation even though it was not meant for their ears.
Ridiculous situation, the decision was made to appease those whose default setting is taking offence.
All that said Gray and Keyes are cretins but we knew that anyway after the comments they made about Walcott.
Yeah, pissed me off with the Walcott comments. Keys is a tit.
Whether it's off-air or not, they were said during a public broadcast as public representatives, as it were, of a sport that has endeavoured to battle numerous prejudices.
As with any profession, you are representing your employers at all times in public commitments. Whilst I don't agree that Sky should appease the masses, I think this was the right decision.
I do however agree with a lot of what Dominic Raab said today, although that discussion was somewhat tangential to this discussion.
If they were public representatives I'd agree Don but they're not.
They do not represent anyone other than their employer and what was said was not said in an official public capacity in a broadcast situation.
As far as I know they weren't even miked up.
I don't agree with what they said, I think it showed yet again how witness and dim they are but ultimately I don't take either of them or their opinions seriously and that goes for their match commentary and analysis too :hmm:
I can see why Sky suspended them, they can't be seen to condone that type of thinking, it's a clear cut business decision and to put those two on air tonight would have been bad for business.....
A damage limitation PR exercise.
They should have allowed them on air and asked the female official to join the commentary team.
She could have put them in their place herself 
meh, we say far worse at our tolly meet ups, sometimes jimbo takes things too far, but we all giggle anyways doesnt we
They were miked up but off-air. Is that really any better? There is a code of conduct in all jobs not to be present prejudiced opinions and when that female linesman was obviously going to be a talking point, how can they validate their opinions given their indiscretions?
Don don't worry about it!
Don Pacifico wrote:They were miked up but off-air. Is that really any better? There is a code of conduct in all jobs not to be present prejudiced opinions and when that female linesman was obviously going to be a talking point, how can they validate their opinions given their indiscretions?
I vote suspension! 
What did they say about Walcott?
y va marquer wrote:If they were public representatives I'd agree Don but they're not.
They do not represent anyone other than their employer and what was said was not said in an official public capacity in a broadcast situation.
As far as I know they weren't even miked up.I don't agree with what they said, I think it showed yet again how witness and dim they are but ultimately I don't take either of them or their opinions seriously and that goes for their match commentary and analysis too :hmm:
I can see why Sky suspended them, they can't be seen to condone that type of thinking, it's a clear cut business decision and to put those two on air tonight would have been bad for business.....
A damage limitation PR exercise.They should have allowed them on air and asked the female official to join the commentary team.
She could have put them in their place herself
Well that crap is from the 1970's Y va, and just like that other 1970's figure big Ron Atkinson when he called Marcel Desailly 'a lazy fking n*er' (in a jovial way as Ron was one of the first managers to give black players a start) they have to go.
We all know women don't understand the offside rule but the biggest laugh is the lineswoman actually did a very good job not like that stupid tit in our game that got at least 4 calls blatantly wrong.
Klaus wrote:What did they say about Walcott?
Load of old guff about him not being intelligent
Oh dear.....I'd hate to hear what he'd say about Diaby.
Hey! stop changing your name Chris it's hard for me to keep up.
Biggus
You know that the odd few women have managed to get their[/align] heads 'round the offside rule.
1970's........
:hmm:8)
Keys sister went on radio and said he has 3 sisters and a daughter and is very respectful of women. He buys them ironing boards and everything.
To be fair, I've made my fair share of sexist jokes, I actually did give one of my ex-girlfriends one of those mini vacuum cleaners for her birthday as a joke (she dumped me). What makes this bad is it doesn't sound like they're joking and they actually believe in their stone age idiologies.
Biggy, me avvy won't change!
Hard to keep up or keep it up?
Rtc did warn me that it tends to prefer to stay off duty once you've past 30
otfgoon wrote:Keys sister went on radio and said he has 3 sisters and a daughter and is very respectful of women. He buys them ironing boards and everything.
To be fair, I've made my fair share of sexist jokes, I actually did give one of my ex-girlfriends one of those mini vacuum cleaners for her birthday as a joke (she dumped me).
What were the details?
Were you regretful after being dumped.
Keys waxed his hands lol
y va marquer wrote:
Biggus
You know that the odd few women have managed to get their[/align] heads 'round the offside rule.1970's........
I like to explain it this way Y va......
Say you're in a crowded shop (pitch)
And you want to get these beautiful pair of shoes (ball)
To the register (goal)
But the queue in front of it is too full of other shoppers (defenders)
Theres no way through! but suddenly you spot your best friend (team mate) near the front.
Now the law simply states that Your friend must be at least level with at least two other shoppers when you launch the shoes for her to catch and pay for at the register.
otfgoon wrote:To be fair, I've made my fair share of sexist jokes, I actually did give one of my ex-girlfriends one of those mini vacuum cleaners for her birthday as a joke (she dumped me). What makes this bad is it doesn't sound like they're joking and they actually believe in their stone age idiologies.
There's a woman who works with me whose husband gave her one of those weed killer contraptions that you strap on your back for her birthday.
She thought it was a joke too but it wasn't, that was all he gave her.
She told us about a month ago (big mistake) and we're still laughing at her.
