Just one more thought—Kit Harrington is quite bad, I really don't enjoy watching him act.
Game of thrones thread (spoilers)
How does GOT rate amongst the all time best series. Pretty highly given this thread I assume.
Biggus wrote:Re the letter, yes it is Littlefinger playing Sansa like a musical instrument.
Surprised no one mentioned the waif using Arya as a pin cushion, but it was very unprofessional of her not to make sure the job was done.
Yep unprofessional but also ery plot convenient.
I liked the stuff in the north. The Hound stuff was terrible.
Qwiss! wrote:Biggus wrote:Re the letter, yes it is Littlefinger playing Sansa like a musical instrument.
Surprised no one mentioned the waif using Arya as a pin cushion, but it was very unprofessional of her not to make sure the job was done.Yep unprofessional but also ery plot convenient.
I liked the stuff in the north. The Hound stuff was terrible.
I think Arya will find the acting troop, as she trusts the actress, and now can't trust anyone. When she doesn't show for the boat, the Waif will assume for the time being she was successful. Richard E Grant's part has been way too small to think its ended there.
I think it's pretty likely she will get a benefit from sparing that actor from death too—heading towards a fairly obvious plot reciprocity.
Tony Montana wrote:How does GOT rate amongst the all time best series. Pretty highly given this thread I assume.
It's trash tv basically. Very entertaining trash for the most part, but it's nowhere near the great HBO shows (let alone all the time greats). It could probably have gone in that direction early on, but it quickly turned into a melodrama instead with disjointed storytelling as one of its main hallmarks.
Re: last episode, I wonder what the point of casting Ian McShane was when he literally got killed off after five minutes on the screen. And while I'm looking forward to Cleganebowl as much as the next person I don't like The Hound's new storyline either. It's such a useless, shallow trope, and another peripheral storyline eating up screentime was the last thing the show needed.
Klaus wrote:Tony Montana wrote:How does GOT rate amongst the all time best series. Pretty highly given this thread I assume.
It's trash tv basically.
Exactly. Dungeons and dragons for adults.
It's the best and worst show that nearly everyone watches. It's pretty much the only show I watch where the barista will ask me "Did you see last night's episode?", or where that sanctimonious prick you know (which could, in other circumstances, be me) likes to make very clear that they eschew it.
Scooner wrote:Qwiss! wrote:Yep unprofessional but also ery plot convenient.
I liked the stuff in the north. The Hound stuff was terrible.
I think Arya will find the acting troop, as she trusts the actress, and now can't trust anyone. When she doesn't show for the boat, the Waif will assume for the time being she was successful. Richard E Grant's part has been way too small to think its ended there.
Again, what what the point of Sandor being saved by a pious community and seemingly undergoing an epiphany, just to have them all slaughtered and him take up the axe again?
Arya will take up with the mummers on a journey that will lead her to Daenerys (which was Tyrion's route in the books).
flobaba wrote:Klaus wrote:It's trash tv basically.
Well as I say to Jonesy (re the EPL) why do you watch it then if all you want to do is complain about it?
I was thinking about what Littlefinger's endgame could be if the letter indeed was from him. Could he be planning marrying Robin Arryn (which we have seen just recently how easily he can control) off to Sansa, creating a sort of union involving the Eyrie, the North and possibly the Riverlands? It would effectively put him in charge of about two thirds of Westeros. There are problems of course, they are first cousins and Sansa's been married twice already, but that doesn't seem to be the kind of thing to stop Littlefinger.
Tony Montana wrote:How does GOT rate amongst the all time best series. Pretty highly given this thread I assume.
Its not in the conversation.
It seemed at first like it might transcend its genre but that never happened. Now its just another inconsistent genre show. I'd put it beside things like The Walking Dead, Flash, Daredevil, etc
Agreed.
Jens wrote:I was thinking about what Littlefinger's endgame could be if the letter indeed was from him. Could he be planning marrying Robin Arryn (which we have seen just recently how easily he can control) off to Sansa, creating a sort of union involving the Eyrie, the North and possibly the Riverlands? It would effectively put him in charge of about two thirds of Westeros. There are problems of course, they are first cousins and Sansa's been married twice already, but that doesn't seem to be the kind of thing to stop Littlefinger.
It might be his plan but I don't see Sansa getting into another marriage like that. At least I hope we don't, how many times can they return to that well?
Klaus wrote:Tony Montana wrote:How does GOT rate amongst the all time best series. Pretty highly given this thread I assume.
It's trash tv basically. Very entertaining trash for the most part, but it's nowhere near the great HBO shows (let alone all the time greats).
I'm curious what shows these all time greats are that you put ahead of the best HBO shows.
Breaking Bad and Mad Men would be obvious ones.
Qwiss! wrote:Jens wrote:I was thinking about what Littlefinger's endgame could be if the letter indeed was from him. Could he be planning marrying Robin Arryn (which we have seen just recently how easily he can control) off to Sansa, creating a sort of union involving the Eyrie, the North and possibly the Riverlands? It would effectively put him in charge of about two thirds of Westeros. There are problems of course, they are first cousins and Sansa's been married twice already, but that doesn't seem to be the kind of thing to stop Littlefinger.
It might be his plan but I don't see Sansa getting into another marriage like that. At least I hope we don't, how many times can they return to that well?
I'm thinking it's the demand Littlefinger makes of her for him to come to her aid with the Knights of the Vale, much like what Robb had to do to appease Walder Frey and let them cross the bridge in season one.
Qwiss! wrote:Breaking Bad and Mad Men would be obvious ones.
Better than The Sopranos and The Wire?
Season 1 and 3 were excellent. 5 was a mess, although episode 8 is a keeper. 6 is still finding itself 7 episodes in. So a bit patchy, but there are very few shows that have consistently had excellent seasons year-after-year. Breaking Bad is the closest I can think of. I wasn't a massive fan of the final season of The Wire, but the others were excellent, particularly 1 and 3.
Jens wrote:Qwiss! wrote:Breaking Bad and Mad Men would be obvious ones.
Better than The Sopranos and The Wire?
Sopranos would be top for me but they're all great and I wouldn't argue with someone who had BB or MM tops. There is also comedy where things like The Simpsons, Seinfeld, etc are up there with Curb and Larry Sanders.
Thinking of the top shows though its a long time since HBO have had a really great drama. The Wire ended in 2008, has there been anything since thats come close? GOT is a huge hit and BWE has a following but neither are genuinely top quality drama. Am I forgetting something?