Poldi is just limited.. Its the reason he was never a dead on starter for either us or Bayern. He could be a lesser teams clear first choice, and he seemed to work well within Germany's system because he has so many other players around him that could pick up his slack. Its hard to argue with 125 caps for a power like Germany.

However, his finishing is top class and he can score goals others can only dream of when he gets the chance. Unfortunately, in this day & age of the modern game, his choices of team is also limited because of his lack of all around game.

Doesnt help that with age he has slowed down even more and runs even less. Just not enough anymore.

He would have been a great striker in the days of 4-4-2

Podolski in Turkey, ahead of his move

To bad it did not work out, I am a big Podolsky fan.

So so far from what we need as a lone CF.

However, as others have said he would be great in a dual striker system and was serviceable at times on our LWF.

Odd that he got so few chances while Theo has had far more. Do you feel Podolski is really that much more limited than Theo, or is that Theo's pace is to impactful to ignore?

General Mirth wrote:

He would have been a great striker in the days of 4-4-2

He still can be. But who play 4-4-2 nowadays?

MistaT wrote:

So so far from what we need as a lone CF.

However, as others have said he would be great in a dual striker system and was serviceable at times on our LWF.

Odd that he got so few chances while Theo has had far more. Do you feel Podolski is really that much more limited than Theo, or is that Theo's pace is to impactful to ignore?

Theo just offers more. I always thought we looked pretty dangerous the few times we played Walcott and Podolski on opposite flanks though. I'm not really sure what happened with Podolski here, Wenger sort of pushed him into his shit form of his latter years. I think he just didn't like his work rate. He was decent enough in terms of goal return for us.

Sad to see Podolski go, was so excited when we signed him. Agree that he would have been of more use in a 442 but he really isn't enough on the wing in our current system.

Hopefully his massive wages go towards someone of first team quality!

Qwiss! wrote:
MistaT wrote:

So so far from what we need as a lone CF.

However, as others have said he would be great in a dual striker system and was serviceable at times on our LWF.

Odd that he got so few chances while Theo has had far more. Do you feel Podolski is really that much more limited than Theo, or is that Theo's pace is to impactful to ignore?

Theo just offers more. I always thought we looked pretty dangerous the few times we played Walcott and Podolski on opposite flanks though. I'm not really sure what happened with Podolski here, Wenger sort of pushed him into his shit form of his latter years. I think he just didn't like his work rate. He was decent enough in terms of goal return for us.

He also disappears a lot. Not a criticism of him, just that he'd let the game pass him by before picking his moments. As a number 9 that's a great quality to have. As a winger or a lone striker, not so much.

Rorz wrote:

Hopefully his massive wages go towards someone of first team quality!

100.000 from Poldi go to Cech. It worked out fine.

that's a wage trade you make everyday. with 8million net transfer fee - that's exactly the philosophy that i have been preaching and Wenger is taking note of. you get rid of the guys between roster position 12 and 20 in the squad and replace them with guys who will be important starters. Podolski was an obvious choice, but there are one or two others for whom July should be squeaky bum time!

A certain little Spaniard falls into that category...

That same Spaniard who was a starter in almost every team Wenger picked throughout the season?

That's the one.

I am willing to bet good money that Cazorla will be a squad player for the better part of next season. If he is still here that is.

A useful squad player that is. Someone that every championship winning team needs. Quality, versatile, dependable.

Yeah, but this is what I responded to.

Claudius wrote:

that's a wage trade you make everyday. with 8million net transfer fee - that's exactly the philosophy that i have been preaching and Wenger is taking note of. you get rid of the guys between roster position 12 and 20 in the squad and replace them with guys who will be important starters. Podolski was an obvious choice, but there are one or two others for whom July should be squeaky bum time!

Claudius is right. You're wrong.

Nope. If Cazorla is NOT in 12-20 going into next season - then we have fucked up another transfer window, and Wenger is fucking up his selections.

Rex doing his cut and paste posting again.

The real reason Podolski is being sold. Arguably his finest moment in Arsenal colours. 

Rex wrote:

Nope. If Cazorla is NOT in 12-20 going into next season - then we have fucked up another transfer window, and Wenger is fucking up his selections.

It's not even close to being a fuck up. It's a very difficult decision with both arguments having some merit.

Surely you can see that there are legitimate arguments in favour of keeping Cazorla at the club - if you can't then you're the unreasonable one.

Biggus wrote:
y va marquer wrote:

Source?
Twitter?
ITK?

Clrnc wrote:

There you go.

Bruno Constant ‏@Bruno_Constant  44m44 minutes ago
#Diaby hasn't been released by #Arsenal. Out of contract. But verbal agreement with the club. Talks ongoing for a new contract.

Add Bruno Constant to the list of know nothing twitter eegits.

General Mirth wrote:

The real reason Podolski is being sold. Arguably his finest moment in Arsenal colours. 

Good to see captain Arteta trying to save his team mates career at the club but too little, too late.

That 12-20 let's play with what is not essential thing is such a simplistic fantasy. 
Like "there are 11 clear ones, our ideal; and then there is reality and what it imposes:
injuries, suspensions, burnout, form. But what we really want our 11".
Which automatically creates this 12-20 category, and invites such futile games as
"Cazorla belongs there anyway; he can serve as a pawn in "let's raise money for X" charade.

The possibility of a clear first 11 does exist in theory, and it's appeal is mainly pragmatic again: it'd be easier
to apply optimal action when the ideal is so simply defined and clear.
But is it really this way? Is there always a clear difference?

If you think that strongly, it's easy to see why you'd want to attribute each player to a clear category - it's the only way things make sense to you.
But even in theory, at least for some managers, a better philosophy would strive to have a first 15, or maybe more.
It's in the nature of the game, which is based on natural humans, that changes do occur at all times.

In fact it looks reasonable to hold that the "clear 11" idea is itself a pragmatic consequence - clubs just can't raise the funds to assemble the ideal team.

I've grown absolutely bored with hearing about Cazorla - and not just Rex's honest, no nonsense claims, but also reading through the forum you get the feeling
we don't really have a player by that name, All ideas, suggestions, formations have all the other names, but not his.

Part of me says - forgive the thought, it has to do with his age. But it's not serious enough. Age has to show.
Saying he's slower now is a half arsed excuse (he always looked like a chubby cream cake on the pitch). 
But his other traits to me form such overwhelming evidence the dude is top quality, and of vital importance for us,
that I just don't get it. Pfft.

http://fresharsenal.com/mikel-arteta-has-not-signed-a-contract-yet-could-leave-for-free-this-summer/

The Telegraph’s Jeremy Wilson reported on Monday night:
Arteta would be the natural back-up (to Coquelin) but he is still in negotiations about signing a new contract while Arsenal would also be open to offers for Flamini.

It seems although Arteta wasn't included on the out of contract list submitted to the Premier League, he hasn't signed a contract extension and could still leave for nothing.

I thought his contract ran out in 2016 so there's no need for him to sign a contract.

Can a player not be included in the official list of out of contract players?

Nope they can't.

Pretty sure Arteta have one year left, can't remember where I read it from.

Did he sign an extension in September 2014 to keep him here until 2016?
I remember it being reported but I can't remember it being announced by the club.
If he didn't sign that extension in September then I guess his contract is up this summer.

I think we'll miss his motivational thumb.

😆

I should probably put this in houseboat but Telegraph are reporting Cazorla to Atletico as part of a deal for Turan.
For some reason when I paste the link it reads as follows:

this HTML class. Value is http://www.telegraph

The other reports I've seen regarding Cazorla to Atletico haven't involved Turan coming to Arsenal, only leaving, most likely to Barcelona, and Atletico wanting Cazorla as his replacement.

If they offered us £20-25m I wouldn't be against it.

I would, unless we bought someone for the position first. Either way, there's no way they pay 20-25m for a soon to be 31yr old.

Turan reminds me of Iniesta.