Loylz wrote:
Gunner89 wrote:
Clearly having played a lot more minutes? What do you base that on?
He was frozen out by February. Might be down to a questionable character or not but he scores more and has scored more.
By your logic Lahm, Neuer etc. must be crap playing in a "poor league" too.
You can go look up the minutes he's played. He's started 6 more games than him. Which, even if he was subbed off after the first half of every game is still considerable more minutes to score that 1 goal.
No one said anything about Neuer or Lahm. Don't put words in my mouth. You picking goal stats to prove his quality but those numbers, considering the dominance in the teams he's played for and the quality of the league, are not at all impressive.
You cite Lewadonski but if you want you can look at his stats, he's scored more than Mandzukic's highest tally in all but 1 (and that occasion was by one goal) of his last 4 seasons. Mario Gomez scored 39 and 41 goals at Bayern.
Mandzukic could not reach those tallies in his life. Giroud's level isn't what a top striker should be judges and if Mandzukic was getting Giroud numbers in the best team in the world. If you accept that Giroud is an jut a decent striker then that showing is pretty average.
As per your blue bit you obviously don't know what you are talking about-
I did look up the minutes-
Giroud-1856
Mandzukic-1932
So by "considerable more minutes" you mean less than 90? Because that's the difference in the minutes both played league football.
Even in his best purple patch he barely beat's Mario's league haul and scores less than Mario overall.
Not sure if you read my post properly but I mentioned Lahm and Neuer specifically for your arguments about a "poor" league.
Mandzukic could not reach those tallies in his life eh? But pep chose to play Mandzukic over Gomez? I wonder why? And if Mandzukic couldn't reach those tallies neither could Giroud as Giroud scores less than Mandzukic.
Mandzukic also played in a league where you play a maximum of 34 games not 38 games too.
2012/13
Mandzukic
Goals:15
Minutes:1725
Goals/min:115
Giroud
Goals:11
Minutes:2332
Goals/min:212
2013/14
Mandzukic
Goals:18
Minutes:2015
Goals/min: 112
Giroud
Goals:16
Minutes: 3068
Goals/min: 191.75
2014/15
Mandzukic
Goals:12
Minutes: 1932
Goals/min: 161
Giroud: 14
Minutes: 1856
Goals/min: 132.5
Even with a new team and Giroud's best ever purple patch he barely beat's mandzukic leagur hsul once. Shite version of Giroud but who scores more at a faster rate. This is RAWK-esque levels of delusion.
