I guess we all are this morning.
Well we'll let the great man answer for himself.
News Thread 2015
banduan wrote:Returning "jihadis" who regret their misadventure complain they don't even have any copies of the Quran. Pictures of them praying show haphazard prayer directions.
Even if we said that statements from returning 'deserters' could be falsified, there's absolutely no way any observant Muslim doesn't know that you can't pray in differing directions.
The IS definitely is not all staged, I personally know a few idiots that were mislead and went to play war in the desert. But pictures like these along with awareness of countless accounts of false flag operations (especially in that part of the world) make you doubt a lot of it - regardless of whether it's just some of the infantry that doesn't care much for their alleged faith or the organisation as a whole.
Biggus wrote:y va marquer wrote:Bw's ancestors are the same as yours Biggus.
He's as close to their suffering as you are.How would you know?
If anyone's interested, my earlier ancestors are mainly farmers from County Clare on one side, who emigrated to Australia in the 1850s to the Victorian gold rush, and wound up involved in the horseracing industry by 1900 before disintegrating into a mess of lawyers, musicians and teachers.
The only ones I know about on the other side are a man who was transported as a convict from near Oxford for stealing a loaf of bread in the 1820s, and a woman who was one of the working class "butterflies" sent to Australia to marry freed convicts in the 1830s.
I'm vaguely interested in my Irish ancestry, but I'm probably more interested in the history of my family in Australia.
As an example, I found out recently that my paternal great-grandfather died under the wheels of a train at Camberwell station in Melbourne. As Catholics, my family were outraged by the fact that the Protestant coroner refused to rule it an accidental death (possibly to spite them).
As another example, my paternal grandmother's first memory was of screaming abuse at then Prime Minister Billy Hughes at a rally against the conscription of troops to fight in WWI in 1916.
Burnwinter™ wrote:If anyone's interested, my earlier ancestors are mainly farmers from County Clare on one side, who emigrated to Australia in the 1850s to the Victorian gold rush, and wound up involved in the horseracing industry by 1900 before disintegrating into a mess of lawyers, musicians and teachers.
Impeccable heritage.
Here I was thinking we all evolved from Africa.
Nope, we evolved from county Clare farmers.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/08/us-britain-protest-islam-idUSKBN0LC0VE20150208
Oh the irony, they're glad enough with free speech when it's them doing the talking.
And yet they'd happily attack the country that provides it when it suits them too.
Who have "they" attacked?
Innocent people on buses and the tube.
Well given that all these guys hAve done is peacefully protest (regardless of whether or not you believe in the cause), you're obviously referring to British Muslims in general.
Glad you've finally dropped the pretense.
Oh so giving moral support and justification for murderers is alright so long as you don't actually pull any triggers yourself.
It's about time you guys stopped living in denial.
The petition, organized by a group called Muslim Action Forum, denounced those who had produced cartoons of the prophet, calling them "an affront to the norms of civilized society".
At least they have a sense of humour.
Biggus wrote:Oh so giving moral support and justification for murderers is alright so long as you don't actually pull any triggers yourself.
It's about time you guys stopped living in denial.
They've not done anything of the sort.
But given that 'they' fall into the same bracket in your eyes, I guess the protests where they were all gathered in once place was a missed opportunity to "kill them all".
Cartoons will draw protests but the actions of ISIS don't. Funny.
Not a single woman seen...
Your point being?
Irish gunner wrote:Cartoons will draw protests but the actions of ISIS don't. Funny.
If you want a representative sample of what "British Muslims" actually think about ISIS, terrorism, etc, you'd be better off reading the press releases of the Muslim Council of Britain.
Kel Varnsen wrote:Not a single woman seen...
It must be almost enough to win you over.
No opportunities for a cold approach pickup at that rally.
Irish gunner wrote:Cartoons will draw protests but the actions of ISIS don't. Funny.
That's obviously because "we" are in league with them, plotting to kill you all.