I don't think we even need to go that high, an offer in excess over £20m will get them thinking. I think Spurs only bid like £14m for him in the summer. For around £25m they will look to sell because I doubt any other club would be willing to match that now or in the summer. Most of the top clubs have already are well stocked in that position.

Surely they must be thinking that there might be a possibility for fourth with him, none without him. No way they will sell him for a non-ridiculous sum imo.

40m is a ridiculous amount. They will surely sell but not even us can be so stupid? With that amount it's almost Cavani money.

John Cross mentioned that Spurs didn't improve on their 10m offer in the summer, so JazzG might have a point. Probably easier to get him in the summer, but more beneficial to get him now.

Yes, for 40m they'd sell, but don't think they'd sell for 20 to 25m to be honest. I'd rather spend 40m on a DM than Cavani. We won't on either, though.

Quincy Abeyie wrote:

Surely they must be thinking that there might be a possibility for fourth with him, none without him. No way they will sell him for a non-ridiculous sum imo.

They ain't getting 4th with or without him imo. Also in Wanyama and Cork they have two players who can play in the middle for them so they don't even need to spend the money quickly for a replacement.

Gunner89 wrote:
qs! wrote:

From the other Morgan Schneiderlin thread that got pumped off the first page of the transfer section by this unnecessary new thread.

Posted 2 months ago by Clrnc.

I'll merge the threads to avoid confusion I suppose.

A quick google search shows those exact quotes to be only have posted on this forum and nowhere else

As a mod can't you at least research this a bit

Maybe you should google what a moderator does.

Otf? Doesn't do much good 'round here.

18 days later

In the longer-term, Abou Diaby is now likely to leave when his contract ends this summer. Arsenal would also listen to offers for Mathieu Flamini, who has one year remaining on his deal. Arteta, the club captain, has agreed to stay for at least another year.

Fucking hell. Really thought he was on a 2+1 contract and that we have decided not to extend.

It really doesn't seem like Wilson knows anything about us anymore. Tiote an option in January? Hell would freeze over before Wenger bought him.

Just bid £25m and get him in now FFS, already fucked up by not moving quickly enough last summer.

I'm sure an extra 5m isn't enough to convince Southampton to sell one of their most important players in the middle of a season when they have a realistic chance of finishing on a CL spot.

Well bid an extra £10m or £15m then, at least ask the question and force them into an awkward situation. It should be noted if they do somehow make it into the CL then there is a good chance that it will be our spot they take.

That's exactly why it wouldn't be that easy to convince them to sell to us.

We're not bidding £25m-£35m on a £10-£15m player ffs 😆

It seems like we already would have signed Schneiderlin if Wenger were interested. Would love this guy but am not optimistic.

Do we have any reason not to lock this at least for now? We're not really being linked are we?

innervisionscm wrote:

It seems like we already would have signed Schneiderlin if Wenger were interested. Would love this guy but am not optimistic.

Exactly, if Wenger thought Southamptons valuation of £20-£25m was fair he would have bought him already. We're not signing this guy, ever. I believe we're aiming much higher anyway in terms of quality.

Burnwinter™ wrote:

Do we have any reason not to lock this at least for now? We're not really being linked are we?

Gunner89 posted a rumor from L'Equipe...

Who's of higher quality than Schneiderlin? Not many players are IMO.

i want to know the same thing. i'd like to know who the higher quality players are. only one player of this profile is clearly better and that's javi martinez and he's recovering from torn knee ligaments.

Pretty sure our scouting staff will have a list of names we're tracking. None of us knew anything about Gabriel seemingly being a good choice for a decent amount of money when suddenly the deal was pretty much done.

We went for Gabriel because it's close to impossible to identify a ready-made CB in the market right now, so we bought potential. Barca bought Mathieu and United bought Rojo in the summer lol. Not easy out there. Chelsea and United would be ahead of us if the likes of Varane and Hummels became available. DM market isn't quite so dry IMO, we can identify Schneiderlin as a ready-made player who we can realistically sign.

I'm with Marv3llous on this one - Schneiderlin isn't worth the reported price. I find it incredible how much the media have bigged up this guy. Everyone is talking about him, and every time we concede a goal, his name pups up as the ultimate solution to our needs. The week before we went to City and completely shut them down, Neville was saying we couldn't do it without buying Schneiderlin.. How wrong he was. We did it, and we could've played all night, and they'd still not score. Though, my point is; was Neville really saying that he would be the difference between us losing 6-3 last time, and actually winning instead? That's bullshit and shows how overrated he's become. Says a lot about Neville imo.

So what exactly would he add that we haven't got? He plays for a team, which is solid, and make his life a lot easier. Imagine him playing with Ramsey, Özil, Wilshere, Santi, etc. He'd have to hold his own most of the time, and dictate the tempo of the game from the deep at a higher pace than Arteta, and from what I've seen, he isn't capable of that. Imo he benefits a lot from a good set-up at Saints, and would be found out if he moved to a bigger club, where he hasn't as much protection from his team-mates, and would've to do a lot more when in possession.

If we want to mantain top 4 status, we get him. But, if he want to challenge for the title, and the CL, we go out there and find a player that fits our needs more, a player with much higher technical quality for a start. £25M is far too much for an imo good, but limited footballer.

Talk M'Vila is available this Jan now that Milan have sign Brozovic.

Schneiderlin's top class, I think it's been obvious for about two seasons now. One of the best players not at an elite club. There's a good chance he goes to a club bigger than us this summer.

Anzac wrote:

Talk M'Vila is available this Jan now that Milan have sign Brozovic.

Is Obafembi Martins still about? We could go for a double-swoop!

Hey Rorz. Didn't realised you are here now.

Twitter rumours that we are signing Sebastian Frey and Hatem Trabelsi while we are at it.

Hi Clrnc, moved over here a little while ago. The death of the A-M xpert eleven league was the last straw 🙁

I still remember Trabelsi being included in an Arsenal squad on one of the Pro-Evo games (I think), he was that close to signing!

Chili Palmer wrote:

If we want to mantain top 4 status, we get him. But, if he want to challenge for the title, and the CL, we go out there and find a player that fits our needs more, a player with much higher technical quality for a start. £25M is far too much for an imo good, but limited footballer.

Like who? And be realistic as well, ie someone there is a realistic chance of us getting. There are better players but none of them imo are realistic targets.

As for what he brings, he breaks up play brilliant and is a very capable passer of the ball. Just look at the starts of Chelsea with and without Matic and then you'll see how key that role has become in the modern game. They are the ones who usually win the ball quickly and move the ball quickly as well. Look at how much better we've looked with Coquelin in our team compared to Flamini, one of them in past it and the other is putting in very impressive performances and we look a lot better as a result. Of course the team has to function properly as well which is something that hasn't happened enough recently. A lot of that imo is down to how many games Arteta has missed, when he is on form it is no coincidence we look a far better team. Thing is we need someone reliable who can stay fit and is better than him if we want to push on.

innervisionscm wrote:

It seems like we already would have signed Schneiderlin if Wenger were interested. Would love this guy but am not optimistic.

Not really. Wenger often takes over a year to sign players.

innervisionscm wrote:

Schneiderlin's top class, I think it's been obvious for about two seasons now. One of the best players not at an elite club. There's a good chance he goes to a club bigger than us this summer.

He's going to Madrid or Bayern?

United maybe. I don't think he fits their idea of a prolific midfield signing though.

Saw a headline indicating a 15m bid = WTF?
FFS why bother!

If he bids, he'll bid properly. Wenger has actually been closing deals with minimal fuss these last two years. The only bid that was problematic was Luis Suarez, and that had been handled properly until the Liverpool owner pulled some expert public relation on us

Would love to know which DM's are there with a "much higher technical quality".

The rumours seem strong with this one. Really hope there is some truth to them.

Would certainly be a top signing for us.