innervisionscm wrote:

It seems like we already would have signed Schneiderlin if Wenger were interested. Would love this guy but am not optimistic.

Exactly, if Wenger thought Southamptons valuation of £20-£25m was fair he would have bought him already. We're not signing this guy, ever. I believe we're aiming much higher anyway in terms of quality.

Burnwinter™ wrote:

Do we have any reason not to lock this at least for now? We're not really being linked are we?

Gunner89 posted a rumor from L'Equipe...

Who's of higher quality than Schneiderlin? Not many players are IMO.

i want to know the same thing. i'd like to know who the higher quality players are. only one player of this profile is clearly better and that's javi martinez and he's recovering from torn knee ligaments.

Pretty sure our scouting staff will have a list of names we're tracking. None of us knew anything about Gabriel seemingly being a good choice for a decent amount of money when suddenly the deal was pretty much done.

We went for Gabriel because it's close to impossible to identify a ready-made CB in the market right now, so we bought potential. Barca bought Mathieu and United bought Rojo in the summer lol. Not easy out there. Chelsea and United would be ahead of us if the likes of Varane and Hummels became available. DM market isn't quite so dry IMO, we can identify Schneiderlin as a ready-made player who we can realistically sign.

I'm with Marv3llous on this one - Schneiderlin isn't worth the reported price. I find it incredible how much the media have bigged up this guy. Everyone is talking about him, and every time we concede a goal, his name pups up as the ultimate solution to our needs. The week before we went to City and completely shut them down, Neville was saying we couldn't do it without buying Schneiderlin.. How wrong he was. We did it, and we could've played all night, and they'd still not score. Though, my point is; was Neville really saying that he would be the difference between us losing 6-3 last time, and actually winning instead? That's bullshit and shows how overrated he's become. Says a lot about Neville imo.

So what exactly would he add that we haven't got? He plays for a team, which is solid, and make his life a lot easier. Imagine him playing with Ramsey, Özil, Wilshere, Santi, etc. He'd have to hold his own most of the time, and dictate the tempo of the game from the deep at a higher pace than Arteta, and from what I've seen, he isn't capable of that. Imo he benefits a lot from a good set-up at Saints, and would be found out if he moved to a bigger club, where he hasn't as much protection from his team-mates, and would've to do a lot more when in possession.

If we want to mantain top 4 status, we get him. But, if he want to challenge for the title, and the CL, we go out there and find a player that fits our needs more, a player with much higher technical quality for a start. £25M is far too much for an imo good, but limited footballer.

Talk M'Vila is available this Jan now that Milan have sign Brozovic.

Schneiderlin's top class, I think it's been obvious for about two seasons now. One of the best players not at an elite club. There's a good chance he goes to a club bigger than us this summer.

Anzac wrote:

Talk M'Vila is available this Jan now that Milan have sign Brozovic.

Is Obafembi Martins still about? We could go for a double-swoop!

Hey Rorz. Didn't realised you are here now.

Twitter rumours that we are signing Sebastian Frey and Hatem Trabelsi while we are at it.

Hi Clrnc, moved over here a little while ago. The death of the A-M xpert eleven league was the last straw 🙁

I still remember Trabelsi being included in an Arsenal squad on one of the Pro-Evo games (I think), he was that close to signing!

Chili Palmer wrote:

If we want to mantain top 4 status, we get him. But, if he want to challenge for the title, and the CL, we go out there and find a player that fits our needs more, a player with much higher technical quality for a start. £25M is far too much for an imo good, but limited footballer.

Like who? And be realistic as well, ie someone there is a realistic chance of us getting. There are better players but none of them imo are realistic targets.

As for what he brings, he breaks up play brilliant and is a very capable passer of the ball. Just look at the starts of Chelsea with and without Matic and then you'll see how key that role has become in the modern game. They are the ones who usually win the ball quickly and move the ball quickly as well. Look at how much better we've looked with Coquelin in our team compared to Flamini, one of them in past it and the other is putting in very impressive performances and we look a lot better as a result. Of course the team has to function properly as well which is something that hasn't happened enough recently. A lot of that imo is down to how many games Arteta has missed, when he is on form it is no coincidence we look a far better team. Thing is we need someone reliable who can stay fit and is better than him if we want to push on.

innervisionscm wrote:

It seems like we already would have signed Schneiderlin if Wenger were interested. Would love this guy but am not optimistic.

Not really. Wenger often takes over a year to sign players.

innervisionscm wrote:

Schneiderlin's top class, I think it's been obvious for about two seasons now. One of the best players not at an elite club. There's a good chance he goes to a club bigger than us this summer.

He's going to Madrid or Bayern?

United maybe. I don't think he fits their idea of a prolific midfield signing though.

Saw a headline indicating a 15m bid = WTF?
FFS why bother!

If he bids, he'll bid properly. Wenger has actually been closing deals with minimal fuss these last two years. The only bid that was problematic was Luis Suarez, and that had been handled properly until the Liverpool owner pulled some expert public relation on us

Would love to know which DM's are there with a "much higher technical quality".

The rumours seem strong with this one. Really hope there is some truth to them.

Would certainly be a top signing for us.