Tony Montana wrote:

otfgoon wrote:

Doesn't feel like it looking at the table, we're still in a position where we could be third in the space of two games. We've been very fortunate that everyone else is dire too. That could quickly change though.

And then everyone will forget how dire Wenger is. 

Nope. No matter how you look at it, our squad is easily better than our position suggest. There are too many results that is completely unacceptable this season.

Indeed. He's underachieving with this squad. When it clicks we should go on a run.

Will make things so much easier if we bolster in the window though

Tony Montana wrote:

What if we don't actually get 4th place?

Wenger will blame injuries, the last World Cup, etc. and he'll get another season to get us back into the top 4. 

flobaba wrote:

Gazza M wrote:

can we forfeit a europa cup place? that tournament feels like some kind purgatory

I think it would be adequate and deserved punishment for the team.

I almost hope we keep Wenger if we do fall out of Champions League reckoning. Make no mistake, he will find ways to embarrass himself even at that level.

Almost.

  I get what you mean Flobs, its like sex when you hold off cumming till its almost agony, it makes the blessed release all the more ecstatic when it finally arrives.

Biggus wrote:

  I get what you mean Flobs, its like sex when you hold off cumming till its almost agony, it makes the blessed release all the more ecstatic when it finally arrives.

LMAO

Lol that's gross

It'll be one mighty one when he's finally gone!

mdgoonah41 wrote:

im sick and didnt go out tonight. i was curious how the next run of fixtures looked, not just for us, but for the others in the top 7. so i put together a table. notes below

it should be self explanatory, but just in case:

• i broke up all of the fixtures into 8 categories, they should be clear.
• table is as of today. no matter what happens tomorrow, we can't move from 5-10 into the top 4. hull could move out of the bottom 4 if they beat west ham, but away, that seems unlikely. neither everton or west brom can move into a different group no matter their results. so hopefully you are okay with me doing this now.
• the shading should make logical sense. if you are colorblind, i apologize, you wont see the gradient changes. i ranked the toughness of the games logically. home games against the bottom 4 should theoretically be the easiest, while away games to other top 4 teams will be the toughest, and then the other 6 sets of games in between, with the colors changing slightly so that it should be easy to quickly see when looking at the chart.

looking at this, in our next 8 fixtures, we avoid the current top 4 completely. our toughest game is away to the spuds. we get a dire leicester team at home, QPR away, and palace away. west ham will be tough, but its at home. everton and villa are also at home.

the chavs have to play southampton and man city, but both are at home. they also get 3 games at teams in the bottom 4, 1 at home and 2 away. man city have to go to stoke, chelsea, and liverpool. they get 3 games against the current bottom 4. southampton has a bit tougher run. they have to go to chelsea, they have liverpool at home, and they also have to play west ham and swansea. liverpool have probably the toughest run. they have to go to southampton, home to man u, man city and spuds, away to swansea, with only 1 game against a team in the bottom 4.

whatever, i was curious, so i figured id just post it here.

This belongs in here. We are going to make up some points during this run I reckon.

QPR away is tougher than it looks, I think yesterday was there first home loss since October (I could be wrong).

Shouldn't be losing any of those games really but I see the potential for a lot draws though. Uniteds run looks very handy too, I think we'll finish that run 4th and probably a fair bit behind them.

Henry just said on Sky that we are now a team that looks for top 4 specifically, not something that you would want. Also surprised to hear him lashing out at how we went backwards. Thought he would say it more carefully with his relationship with Wenger.

Its his job now and Henry doesn't half ass things.

This season it's not exactly controversial to say that we're looking to get top 4. Henry is right, of course. We're also a lot further from the top than last season, so we have went backwards, or at least stood still why everyone else moved forward.

Clrnc wrote:

Henry just said on Sky that we are now a team that looks for top 4 specifically, not something that you would want. Also surprised to hear him lashing out at how we went backwards. Thought he would say it more carefully with his relationship with Wenger.

Tony Montana wrote:

Clrnc wrote:

Henry just said on Sky that we are now a team that looks for top 4 specifically, not something that you would want. Also surprised to hear him lashing out at how we went backwards. Thought he would say it more carefully with his relationship with Wenger.

No serious pundit, even ex-Arsenal, would state otherwise.

You're wrong though.

Suddenly Spurs, Liverpool, United, Southampton's weekends are not so good.

Diaby KungFu wrote:

We're strong favorites for 3rd imo.

I've maintained all along we'll finish third, and relatively comfortably. Still think that's the case even if our poor start lasted longer than I thought it would.