Its funny how everyone couldnt give a fuck about him and called him an absolute deadweight and a loser when he left. Now many want him back

Clrnc wrote:

Super Mario wrote:

I think he's still left off the Mexican team. He's not going to play for Mexico in the world cup.

He is not left out, they are trying all they can to get their best player to the world cup.

He refuses though, he is still sore about being punished wrongly by their FA previously.

Ah thanks for the info clrnc. I think he's a must buy for his clause. If he doesn't pan out, there will be someone who would pay at least 15m for him.

marv3llous wrote:

Its funny how everyone couldnt give a fuck about him and called him an absolute deadweight and a loser when he left. Now many want him back

Because he's been quality in Spain and at the quoted price it's a risk worth taking.

innervisionscm wrote:

Griezmann is the player to get from Sociedad.

Yes, he is.

marv3llous wrote:

Its funny how everyone couldnt give a fuck about him and called him an absolute deadweight and a loser when he left. Now many want him back

Especially funny since players can't change or improve!

Oh, wait.

We need a top player up front. Giroud will be our backup striker next season. In the PL every winner has had an Aguero, van Persie, Rooney, Drogba, Henry, van Nistelrooy, etc. Vela has been good and represents "good value" but we need a Kos-Ramsey-Ozil level player who can take us up a level, not a useful squad player.

We could have done with a couple of useful squad players when we went for weeks without any pace in attack whatsoever. Although that wasn't helped by Chamberlain playing in midfield i guess. Vela would be a very good player at a cheap price and he'd more than likely play wide especially with Theo injured. He wouldn't be our only attacking signing i presume, we'll look all summer for that top striker we need.

at 4 mil we should bite their hands off getting him back. We are looking for this sort of player to come in and if we can do it on the cheap then we should have more funds for the CF, DM, RB, and GK that we need.

innervisionscm wrote:

We need a top player up front. Giroud will be our backup striker next season. In the PL every winner has had an Aguero, van Persie, Rooney, Drogba, Henry, van Nistelrooy, etc. Vela has been good and represents "good value" but we need a Kos-Ramsey-Ozil level player who can take us up a level, not a useful squad player.

You think the ones who want Vela want a useful squad player instead of a world class player, or to add depth in attack? Your whole post reads as if you believe the former.

To those who have seen plenty of him in Spain, would he still be useless on the left wing?

Nope he's more of a wide player than striker these days. Plays mostly on the right though.

Wilshere wrote:

innervisionscm wrote:

We need a top player up front. Giroud will be our backup striker next season. In the PL every winner has had an Aguero, van Persie, Rooney, Drogba, Henry, van Nistelrooy, etc. Vela has been good and represents "good value" but we need a Kos-Ramsey-Ozil level player who can take us up a level, not a useful squad player.

You think the ones who want Vela want a useful squad player instead of a world class player, or to add depth in attack? Your whole post reads as if you believe the former.

You think Wenger is gonna buy two strikers this summer?

innervisionscm wrote:

Wilshere wrote:

You think the ones who want Vela want a useful squad player instead of a world class player, or to add depth in attack? Your whole post reads as if you believe the former.

You think Wenger is gonna buy two strikers this summer?

Vela/Drmic/Rémy + an established striker? Yeah, sure.

A starting striker, and a utility front man is hardly unrealistic. In all fairness, there's no need to go overboard with the pessimism.

I think I'm more optimistic than most here tbh. I just think that we'll need a new RB, a backup GK, and a top ST. Other than that Wenger will bring in one more player at most, and I'd rather it be a winger like Griezmann or a central midfielder like Schneiderlin than a second or third choice striker.

innervisionscm wrote:

I think I'm more optimistic than most here tbh. I just think that we'll need a new RB, a backup GK, and a top ST. Other than that Wenger will bring in one more player at most, and I'd rather it be a winger like Griezmann or a central midfielder like Schneiderlin than a second or third choice striker.

Wenger has said several times that he has a rule of bringing in no more than 3 starting players.

RB, CM, ST as starting players + a utility front man and some random, nobody, backup goalkeeper like Mart Poom or Graham Stack.

That scenario doesn't seem unrealistic.

We'll need the keeper to be good enough to worry Szczesny at the very least. I think bringing in five players is too much for Wenger, we have three necessary purchases assuming Fabianski and Sagna leave and anything else will feel like a bonus. He'll say we were unlucky with injuries, the missing key players will be good enough, and so on. We'll see though.

We should worry about sorting out our first choice before worrying about who his backup will be, when it comes to our forward line.

For what its worth, according to reports in Germany Drmic is probably going to Bayer 04. Mätthaus was just fed bullshit info.

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When I have seen him play, and I have seen him quite a bit this season, he has either played on the right, or up front. Up front he has been used as a number 9, or in tandem with a partner.

Getting Vela back would be great business at that price, and with him in the squad there is no immediate need to rush Walcott back. He is also a player who can play together with our top, top class striker.

Honestly, I'd prefer Griezmann since he is more direct and more willing to make runs in behind the back 4. With Vela there is always a fear that he will just add to the tippy tappy if he is played wide. If we could use our 'right' to get Vela as a make weight in getting Griezmann, then that would be my preferred choice. I also think that Sociedad would rather keep Vela if it were up to them.

Diaby KungFu wrote:

San Sebastien based journalist Oier Fano has claimed that we've informed Sociedad that we will activate Vela's release clause.

Oier Fano's been gushing over him on his Twitter account, said he's the closest thing to Messi there is. Also said he'd walk into our team and that the likes of Poldi and Ox are a 'joke' in comparison. He's a season ticket holder at Real Sociedad.

I think he meant in terms of style. Not that outlandish a statement to be fair.

I'd still have doubts about his mentality and his ability to adapt (again) to a foreign culture.

That'd be my main concern too.
He gave a few interviews when he settled at Sociedad in which he spoke about how unhappy he'd been with life here.
He's maybe grown up enough now to put that behind him.

Jed wrote:

Diaby KungFu wrote:

San Sebastien based journalist Oier Fano has claimed that we've informed Sociedad that we will activate Vela's release clause.

Oier Fano's been gushing over him on his Twitter account, said he's the closest thing to Messi there is. Also said he'd walk into our team and that the likes of Poldi and Ox are a 'joke' in comparison. He's a season ticket holder at Real Sociedad.

The fanny obviously hasn't seen enough of Arsenal though.

Kike Marin saying today that this is all driven by Velas agent though.

No surprise there. I reckon we'll only sign the likes of Vela and Remy if they're still available towards the end of the window when everything else has failed.

innervisionscm wrote:

Wilshere wrote:

You think the ones who want Vela want a useful squad player instead of a world class player, or to add depth in attack? Your whole post reads as if you believe the former.

You think Wenger is gonna buy two strikers this summer?

Depends on who leaves. I don't think it's very unlikely that we will get one class forward and one cheaper player that can also play wide, like Vela or Remy.

Seems to have done a bit more growing up since leaving. Some muscle in those dribbles.

Agreed. He could easily stay in Spain where he's comfortable but if he's willing to move it means he's ready to make a proper go of it this time round.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6KrT-IocJ4

Compilation of Vela's performance in Sociedad's latest match vs Granada. He really has turned into a top player. Everything Sociedad do from an attacking point goes through him. He's become a leader as well. A completely different player from the one we had.

Also, Kike Marin says Vela is certain to quit Sociedad this summer.

Vela on the right wing would work.

That Video doesn't show anything new. He's always had talent but he still looks week, still runs into trouble and gives the ball away. A highlight reel doesn't display how much he gets involved in play, or answer the question marks about his mentality.

Yeah. Keep hearing people saying he's changed and a much better player but I've watched a few compilations and can't say I'm that impressed.

Dunno what it is but everything he does kinda looks so awkward, unnatural and forced. Maybe it's because of how one footed he is.

one-footed? also known as left-footed?

Messi is one footed. So is Robben. Didn't stop becoming world class.

Messi isn't one footed.

Quite a reliable account.