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Carlos Vela

kamikaze

y va marquer wrote:
I tend to be more rational 🙂

you say that, but fabregas has already signed, costa is a done deal, xavi apparently is done as well, muller re-signed. all these guys are at the world cup. other teams are still getting business done, while true to form, arsenal sits at the sidelines.

it's not panic, it's dismay at our usual bumbling, dithering transfer window. we're leaving a lot of work to do for the couple weeks after the world cup and before the CL qualifers, and you just know that the excuse then will be that the players are on holiday...

one could almost say that rather than being rational, you're delusionally optimistic! 🙂

Rohit

It's not something to be overlooked because it has become a 'way' almost, but keep our recent history in the market aside and not having made any signings yet isn't any blunder.

There is ample time after the World Cup. Only Chelsea have really made the big moves.

Question is whether we will change or ways despite there being more money from the new deals or will we continue to try and knock off millions from the fee before pulling out eventually.

Biggus

I can't believe there are still some people who retain doubt that Wenger is in total charge of football at this club.
It's all his responsibility and it's all his blame if it doesn't go right.

Meatwad

that's a sign that he's been doing such a shit job on the transfer market that they have to convince themselves it's not him, someone else is responsible because my arsene wouldn't behave this way.

Burnwinter

We don't leave it late because of bumbling, we leave it late because we don't want to compete on price.

innervisionscm

Rex wrote:
There is certainly something wrong with the way we go about transfers, and I just don't believe Wenger isn't, at least partly, one of the reasons for it. Chelsea has just in the last few weeks proved that making top signings early is far from impossible, and we saw the same thing last summer for plenty of clubs.
I just don't think that we are ever prepared to sign a player for the asking price of the selling club. That is my take on it anyway, but I am sure other people at the club are to blame for that as well.

Özil?

kamikaze

i dont really believe that. it's pretty rare for a team to be so desperate to get rid of a player that they will lower their demands before the window ends, unless that player isnt any good to begin with, and they have no need to even find a replacement.

i think it's just an excuse that gets thrown out there. if we do actually do that, then all the more reason for everyone to be sacked, as it's colossally stupid.

Rex

Özil was signed the last day of the window while we had been dithering all summer. There was simply no time to haggle. Bet we would have otherwise. 🙂

When a club is open to a sale, then obviously they have a figure in mind. I just don't think that we accept that figure and move on to convincing the player to come. Wenger has also repeatedly said that things usually happen at the end of the window, but then we have plenty of clubs who every summer show us otherwise. Look at January - there was absolutely no way that we couldn't have signed Källström pretty much whenever we wanted. For some reason we left it so late that we pretty much had to take him even though he was injured. It was him or no one.

Gunner89

kamikaze wrote:
i dont really believe that. it's pretty rare for a team to be so desperate to get rid of a player that they will lower their demands before the window ends, unless that player isnt any good to begin with, and they have no need to even find a replacement.

i think it's just an excuse that gets thrown out there. if we do actually do that, then all the more reason for everyone to be sacked, as it's colossally stupid.

Harry Redknapp said something along the lines that Madrid whacked the price of RVDV from 16m to 8m in a day to get rid off him during the last hours of the window. Now he may not be a competent manager but he's a pretty frank guy.

Gunner89

Kike says he's sold for 14m euro bringing the total fee to 17.5m euro

marv3llous

Such good business for a player like him (who basically flopped in England).

flobaba

It's a decent piece of business regardless of how he performed in England.

Add to Balotelli Cavani Cuadrado fund.

innervisionscm

Great business. £11.2m from Vela and £5.6m from Cesc gives us _£17m out of thin air. Didn't think Vela fit here and always felt the 'rumors' were more about getting money out of that buyout clause.

Biggus

flobaba wrote:
It's a decent piece of business regardless of how he performed in England.

Add to Balotelli Cavani Cuadrado fund.

Or we could buy 20 Sanogoals.....

Claudius

Or fund the gaffers new, inflated contract.

banduan

Gunner89 wrote:
Now he may not be a competent manager but he's a pretty frank guy.

Yup, such a Frank guy he named his dog Fatty Lampo.

He loved that dog.

Rex

Seems we are getting an additional £8m. Lower than what has been bandied around here, but decent anyway.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/385434/DONE-DEAL-Real-Sociedad-clinch-8m-deal-with-Arsenal-to-obtain-full-rights-to-Carlos-Vela

Gunner89

Spanish press say 11m euros plus 4m in bonuses plus 20 percent sell on till 2018. Add the initial 3m euros and it's a guaranteed 14-15m euros going upto 22-25m euros. Not bad for a player who reportedly cost 1m pounds.

Ricky1985

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27996066

BBC confirming we passed on the chance to buy Vela back, and he has now signed a 4 year deal at Sociedad, pocketing us £12m in the process. Other news outlets close to Sociedad say there's also a 20% sell on clause and future incentives, too. We're quids in! Nice work Arsenal.

frusciante

it looks like he will be generating money forever..we invented perpetum mobile

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