Just found out that the reason our transfers take a long time is the test question we give players to answer before we give them a contract.
Bergkamp, Vieira, Henry, etc answered it pretty quickly but Higuain couldn't work it out and Suarez simply ate his, thinking they were his new tablets.
Now Liverpool are pissed off as we have told the they must pay 20p for the photocopy that's why there is a further delay.
We are now getting all this nonsence from their resident buffoons, Henry and Rogers.
Any of you pro-Suarezes can work out the answers and fax it to Liverpool as computers are not used there.
Suarez: the great moral dilemma of our time
some new-ish quotes from rodgers (i think). you get the sense suarez has told him privately he wants out
Biggus wrote:And up pops a smiling Klaus Daimler.
What do you think of all this Klaus?
lagos wrote:Et tu Lagos.
Commend them for finally spending?
What sorcery is this!Not to worry Biggus we've still got him on the charge of tactical ineptitude!!
One can say if you have that sort of money to spend why decide late in the day to put your eggs in one basket when some decent players have moved for much less.
Was it the prospect of another failed transfer window as a result of penny pinching over Higuain that necessitated a panic move for Suarez? Time will tell if it is indeed a change in approach or just panic! Who knows but one has to give the benefit of doubt for even attempting such a nosebleed transfer.
panic move, Lagos? So early in the window and panic move? really?
suarez is the one signing that can wait until the deadline because he's suspended anyway.
you need a striker, you are under pressure, the natives are restless, you need a big name! who else is available? One thing is obvious, Suarez was not his main target!!!
Meatwad wrote:suarez is the one signing that can wait until the deadline because he's suspended anyway.
he isn't suspended in Europe, don't forget all we've done is qualify to take the entrance exam....with Giroud and Gervais!!!
Biggus wrote:Biggus wrote:I accept now that this deal could really happen, I feel vindicated when I kept on saying that they had money and were hoarding it, so what was the point of letting Van Persie leave?
Something has changed at the club at executive level this indicates a power shift away from Wenger as I refuse to believe he agreed to this.Could it be some unsettled business between Kroenke and Henry?
that was my first reaction then I checked and he wasn't listed as owning any baseball teams so I dropped the idea.
Brendan Rodgers has told Arsenal they must pay over £55m for Luis Suárez and called for loyalty from the striker
Admittedly that's the headline, but it's still a rather contradictory position.
I'm not sure how well "We demand your loyalty!" squares with "Yeah, but if we get offered another £15m, you're gone" ...
We should have bid the £30m for Higuain: we screwed this deal. Pretty likely we're going to pay through the nose for someone now, or get no one.
Back in for Rooney now, probably, just to make it look like we've got options. Meanwhile hope Suarez starts agitating for a move or they discover that his £40m clause has a different legal meaning than they thought.
Apparently Rooney will accept us as a a consolation prize if his dream move to Chelsea falls through.
Piss off you fat little fuck.
Don Pacifico wrote:Think we've royally fucked this one. Higuain wanted to come and I'm not convinced Suarez does even if we Real Madrid don't outbid us. Surprised we didn't go fir the safer option, very unlike us.
What Don said.
Don Pacifico wrote:Think you've put it well Klaus: we're effectively wasting precious window time on something that is unlikely to materialise.
What Don said about what Klaus said.
Stan probably has a beef with Henry back from when they were both in The Skulls or something.
Has the desire to get one over on his frat arch-nemesis Henry launched The Moustache into action? Nice thought.
Biggus wrote:Apparently Rooney will accept us as a a consolation prize if his dream move to Chelsea falls through.
Piss off you fat little fuck.
Endorsed. From here our best play is to pretend we want him so that Liverpool think we have options, then swoop on Suarez and tell Rooney to jog on.
James Lawton: Signing Luis Suarez to Arsenal will sever all of Arsène Wenger's attachment to higher values.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/james-lawton-signing-luis-suarez-to-arsenal-will-sever-all-of-arsne-wengers-attachment-to-higher-values-8730929.html
that shit makes no sense. "happened to the business plan founded on football sanity" WTF?? so we were never suppose to join the transfer madness. just sit idly by and turn our noses up at the prices as these other clubs just spend and we win nothing? i may not want suarez, but i have no problem with arsenal spending big.
our pre-summer 2013 sane business plan is on show with the signing of andre santos for 8m and then signing his replacement soon after for another 8m. so 16m on left backs and no money recouped. so there is also a lot of waste in that so called "sane" sub 12m marketplace.
It's not "madness", it just feels like madness. It's a market. It's not like we don't need top players to be a top, competitive football club, and it's not like top players are cheap - especially this window, it appears.
Also, Suarez's transfer price has nothing to do with his behavioural issues - our bid is similar to our bid for Higuain. It's to do with how he plays football. One might question whether someone with such poor conduct should be so hugely rewarded financially, but then one might question whether someone should be rewarded financially for playing football as well.
I get fucking sick of people who live and breathe in a world totally in the grip of the dynamics of neoliberal capitalism, who then profess a kind of eyebrows-up wowserish surprise when there's a price catastrophe or someone's profiteering, or they notice that everyone, absolutely everyone, is morally compromised by the principles of exchange by which we live. That's the system.
Finally, Suarez's behaviour, particularly his racism (whether it's heartfelt or pseudo-racist trolling) is appalling, but redemption should always be a possibility. There is an intersectional undertone of racism in the prevailing eagerness to attack him and describe him as an "animal" or a "cannibal" as well, in my opinion. Just as class and its geographical asymmetry in the UK inflect the attacks on Rooney, and a vocabulary of culturally loaded terms and symbols - "beast", "monster", "ape", bananas - expressing the persistent, occluded hierarchy of racial privilege is used to discuss black players.
Meanwhile Australia is paying through the nose to ship innocent refugees off its shores because they're brown, and alleged Smiths fan David Cameron is running an "immigrants go home" campaign to shore up the EDL vote. Sick, sad world ...
lagos wrote:you need a striker, you are under pressure, the natives are restless, you need a big name! who else is available? One thing is obvious, Suarez was not his main target!!!
It's hardly a panic buy. Besides, Wenger will quite happily go into the season with Giroud as our only striker if he doesn't find 'value' in the market. If
I had to guess, we were following Higuain for ages but negotiations faltered. Meanwhile Suarez, like van Persie before him, makes it clear that he's available to the whole of Europe once the season ends.
What's new is that we've actually done something about it. Previously, if we don't get the player we want, the club has been more than willing to fold.
@ Meaty, Totally agree- I've never advocated spending like drunken sailors in a brothel as a cure-all, money never did guarentee success.
My beef with Wenger stems from the type of team and style of football he tries to play and hence the type of players he buys not the amount he pays.
@ Burnsy, I also agree- If the market says Suarez is worth 40-50M thats what hes worth, If St Francis of Assisi was a great finisher thats what he'd be worth too, the market is amoral.
Although redemption may be possible I don't agree that this is a service we as a club should provide, he's on the verge of being employed not just to score goals but to represent this club and behave as a professional, this is what separates us from the animals like Chelsea.
Suarez is not a 'panic target', but, as the number of prospective buys keep decreasing with time, the price we may have to pay may be a 'panic price'.
To me, this is beginning to reek of the Xabi Alonos transfer effort. We absolutely needed a new defensive midfielder then. We badly need a new striker now. We missed out on "2 million" then. We'll miss out of 5 million now.
I don't know which will be worse. Wenger and Gaz spending 55m because they have backed themselves into a corner or ending up empty handed.