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Suarez: the great moral dilemma of our time

Proof

There's a lot of hypocrisy among some Arsenal fans regarding Luis Suarez's behavior. I can't defend him on the alleged racist words he said to Evra. All I know is that Evra is not exactly a saint.

What pisses me off is when I hear some Arsenal fans complaining about Suarez's diving, the Ivanovic bite or that deliberately tries to injure other players etc.

Patrick Vieira is an Arsenal legend and one of the dirtiest players in Premier League history. I remember that he was banned for spitting Neil Ruddock. Spitting is infinitely worse than biting someone's hand, it's not even close. Is the most despicable reaction you can have, is beyond vile. Fabregas was also accused of spitting Ballack and Hull City's assistant coach. I don't even want to start enumerating Vieira's reckless tackles, there were many of them.

Biggus

How dare you compare an Arsenal legend like Patrick Vieira to Suarez.
You should criticise the hypocrisy of those who couldn't stomach Suarez before are now rushing to lick his balls just because he's linked with us.

Timbob

Come on, Suarez is way worse than Vieira or even someone like Keane. That said, Saurez's 'crimes' are all football related, it's not like he's going around roasting young girls, or beating up civilians in McDonald's.

Still think there's a lot of melodrama around this transfer.

Proof

Biggus wrote:
How dare you compare an Arsenal legend like Patrick Vieira to Suarez

I compared their actions/reactions while they are on the pitch not their statuts in world football.

You should criticise the hypocrisy of those who couldn't stomach Suarez before are now rushing to lick his balls just because he's linked with us.

That's a fair point.

Maybe Suarez is worse than someone like Keane or Vieira. The point that I'm trying to make is that there's a lot of overreacting towards this transfer rumor. Looking at a few opinions you'd think that Luis Suarez is the second coming of Ted Bundy.

Biggus

Proof wrote:
Maybe Suarez is worse than someone like Keane or Vieira. The point that I'm trying to make is that there's a lot of overreacting towards this transfer rumor. Looking at a few opinions you'd think that Luis Suarez is the second coming of Ted Bundy.

Given the choice (and I don't believe we are) between Suarez and persisting with Giroud hoping he'll improve (which I do) or better still changing to a 4-4-2 with Poldi or Theo to partner him, I know which I'd choose.

Timbob

Death by mau mau?

Biggus

If Wenger doesn't stop fucking about with nonsense bids It'll be death by Man U (again).

Pepe LeFrits

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-luis-suarez-ready-2067746

No problem with Suarez in the Arsenal dressing room, says Cross!

Kel Varnsen

why would there be? i don't he has caused any problems within the liverpool squad.

Biggus

A Liverpool perspective.

http://www.nevermanagealone.com/2013/7/19/4539294/the-luis-suarez-affair-thoughts-and-insight?

Signing a player who was idolised and supported by his fans but he turned around and shat in their faces.......Sound familiar?

Iloveyouarsenewenger

Suarez causes problems only in the opposition dressing room - because he is a total jerk to them on the football field. Then, he has a history of causing problems in the boardroom when he demands for a transfer.

I don't see this transfer happening because I don't see Liverpool letting him go for even 40 million. Since, I don't reckon anybody would be willing to pay more than that, I can see Suarez throwing a tantrum and doing something "drastic" like going on a strike. I am not really confident of us having the wherewithal to handle such a messy and expensive transfer.

Biggus

Pepe LeFrits wrote:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-luis-suarez-ready-2067746

No problem with Suarez in the Arsenal dressing room, says Cross!

So long as no "negrito" tries to talk to him?

yuv

Biggs, you in the fuck no camp?

Claudius

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5023941/Luis-Suarez-Real-to-offer-Liverpool-20m-plus-Gonzalo-Higuain.html

The Sun suggesting that we might see our two main targets go poof before our eyes as Real and Liverpool do a player plus cash trade for Higuain and Suarez. Would actually be quite funny... and then depressing and infuriating.

Biggus

No you're right first time Claudius it would be funny.

yuv wrote:
Biggs, you in the fuck no camp?

I've been disenfranchised Yuvy, I'm been denied my democratic rights. luckily Burnsy has interpreted my wishes.

Claudius

Biggus, I'm holding judgment on Wenger until the end of the transfer window but I have absolutely no confidence in him to improve the team this summer. He's too accustomed to shopping at Walmart.

Biggus

Walmart eh? 😉

Claudius

Indeed. Keeping it in the family

Biggus

'Suarez? As you know the transfer period demands secrets and confidentiality, so I can't answer the question.'

Bold Tone

Proof wrote:
There's a lot of hypocrisy among some Arsenal fans regarding Luis Suarez's behavior. I can't defend him on the alleged racist words he said to Evra. All I know is that Evra is not exactly a saint.

What pisses me off is when I hear some Arsenal fans complaining about Suarez's diving, the Ivanovic bite or that deliberately tries to injure other players etc.

Patrick Vieira is an Arsenal legend and one of the dirtiest players in Premier League history. I remember that he was banned for spitting Neil Ruddock. Spitting is infinitely worse than biting someone's hand, it's not even close. Is the most despicable reaction you can have, is beyond vile. Fabregas was also accused of spitting Ballack and Hull City's assistant coach. I don't even want to start enumerating Vieira's reckless tackles, there were many of them.

Come on mate, your second sentence completely nullifies the accusation in your first sentence so no need to address it (yet again).
As for your third sentence, what's that got to do with the price of fish?
On to your fourth about Vieira. I wouldn't argue if you said he was the "most sent off" or "most carded" player but one of the dirtiest players in Premier League history?
Politely disagree as this is an example of a typical Vieira (in his prime) tackle in my mind.

Feel free to educate me by showing me a selection of the reckless tackles i cannot remember, equivalent to Suarez's.
Like you, i hate spitting as it is despicable, vile, disgusting and uncouth.
However i would not prefer having another grown man bite me as i consider infusion of spit into the blood stream via teeth a health hazard (a clear mode for transmission of disease) which is also painful, animalistic and barbaric.
As to your points regarding Fabregas, Ballack said he wasn't spat on so who are we to believe?
Next, orange Phil failed to convince the FA that Cesc had spat at Horton and the best he could do come up with was "he was wearing a jacket and jeans on the pitch in an aggressive manner". What does that even mean?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1162830/Spitting-Fabregas-hook---WAS-doing-pitch-dressed-like-hoodie.html

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