We could easily pay Robin £300K per week if we wanted to, let alone the measly £250K that City were rumoured to offer him. We're the 4th richest club in the world. Forbes says so.

Ah Klaus 😆
We could probably afford £150k per week.
Lagos would go mad though.

Ray Fakadakis wrote:

Bet you wouldn't give up on football

Probably not 🙂
It's getting a bit much though.

I wouldn't waste time worrying about Perse. The ball is firmly in his court and there are more important issues that need to be dealt with.

This thread should be locked until an offical decision has been made either way.

Otherwise you will all give yourself headaches going around in circles for the next 3 months.

Klaus wrote:

We could easily pay Robin £300K per week if we wanted to, let alone the measly £250K that City were rumoured to offer him. We're the 4th richest club in the world. Forbes says so.

why are you saying this sarcastically? literally speaking, we could. it would be a bad business decision, but we could.

Timbo wrote:

Option 3
*we sell him and his replacement isn't good enough, we have a crap season and finish 6th. Meanwhile RVP bangs in 30 goals for somebody else. Failure to qualify for the CL totally negates the money we made when selling him.

Option 4
*we actually, against all the odds, come up with a really good team. We lead the table all season, but fall at the last because we are lacking that extra bit of top quality up front.

re option 3, without the 25m, isnt it much, much more likely that his replacement will not be good enough?

re option 4, we will not, against the odds, come up with a really good team if we dont have the 30m to reinvest into the team. we will lack more than an "extra bit" of top quality up front without that money.

if van persie doesn't want to re-sign, then we've already lost him. it's a simple choice between having 25m to reinvest in the squad or not. it's a no brainer. all the bad things that MIGHT happen if we sell him are much more likely to happen when van persie actually leaves and we're left with nothing.

@Tim You make sense, but as Kami points out, under your scheme Options 3 and 4 could just be what happens the season after next, except we'll have £25m less to do anything about it.

If Van Persie won't sign I want him to fuck off right away anyway. I'm not after a sympathy goal or two for the road.

asajoseph wrote:

No there aren't.

You're insane if you think that.

With or without Perse we are winning fuck all as it stands. The club need to proceed as if he isn't going to be here next season and not be distracted by bullshit.

Van Persie was the only thing between us and 8th this season. You're mental if you think his future isn't the most important question this summer.

Yeah, and the same was said of Nasri and Cesc. Worked out well that time.

VanPersie is nothing in the scale of things; he's one player who can be replaced. But then I've seen your opinion on signing basically anyone in the transfer section, so obviously you haven't noticed the other flaws in the team.

I think they've already proceeded with their post van Persie plan.
Podolski is it.
Bought him early to avoid a repeat of last summer when they were left with just a few weeks to try replace Cesc and Nasri.

I was until the last few days actually gullible enough to think that Podolski was primarily purchased to play alongside Robin and bolster our attack.

I'm seeing now that he's wasn't, he's first and foremost insurance to cover the now real prospect of van Persie leaving.

Anyway Arsene made it clear that getting Jack and Abou fit is the next priority as opposed to signing new players.
(Flawless plan that)

Taken all of that into consideration I reckon getting Robin to sign is still very much a top priority.

VanPersie is here next season if we want him to be.

Captain wrote:

VanPersie is here next season if we want him to be.

Valid when looking at one aspect of it. The club, however, don't have the luxury of looking at only this aspect (have to look at the big picture too).

Things are not simple at all, and IMO every decision is defendable - except letting him go without properly replacing him.

If Podolski is it I'd want to kill someone.

My only surprise here is why would any fans even care about the 25 mil lost (though, as I said, the club does need to think about it). As far as I'm concerned (and I would think all reasonable fans) - who cares about 25 mil? Is there even one Arsenal fan, regardless of position, who doesn't think we've underspent by at least that amount recently?

If van Persie turns around and says he wants to go anywhere, and sticks to his guns, he'll end up exactly where he wants to be. It's very simple.

Losing van Persie is bigger than just his loss playing wise, which is massive BTW. Keeping him on would show a change in philosophy, it'd show we have a plan that was enough to convince him, it'd show we can hang onto our best players.

If Robin leaves this summer it'll be the final nail in the coffin of our ambition.

Keeping VanPersie isn't a sign of ambition though. Going out and making the signings to challenge for top honours is and that can happen irrespective of VanPersie.

I don't get why you guys keep pidgeon-holing the two together. Big players leave clubs all of the time; big clubs, ambitious clubs act accordingly. They don't totter around all summer and then realise the magnitude of their error on transfer deadline day.

y va marquer wrote:

I think they've already proceeded with their post van Persie plan.
Podolski is it.
Bought him early to avoid a repeat of last summer when they were left with just a few weeks to try replace Cesc and Nasri.

I was until the last few days actually gullible enough to think that Podolski was primarily purchased to play alongside Robin and bolster our attack.

I'm seeing now that he's wasn't, he's first and foremost insurance to cover the now real prospect of van Persie leaving.

Anyway Arsene made it clear that getting Jack and Abou fit is the next priority as opposed to signing new players.
(Flawless plan that)

Taken all of that into consideration I reckon getting Robin to sign is still very much a top priority.

The pinning the hopes on jack n diabys return worries me greatly. Never seem to learn our lessons

You can use that argument with every single player. Until the management and philosophy of the club changes, we'll win nothing. And it's true, we can sell any player at the club, and that won't change.

Personally, I think it'd be better if we can hand on to the next manager and owner with as many tools at their disposal as possible to actually win something. Robin's part of that, I hope, so would Cesc have been and Nasri too even. There's the alternate, destructive view, that the lower we go now the better chance we have that the kind of change we need actually comes about sooner. I absolutely understand that, but it's an odd argument to make for anyone who puts such over-importance on Champions League qualification and the third place trophy.

Reality is, Robin has been more important to us than I can think of any player in any other league. And that includes Ronaldo and Messi. We have been by far, by an absolute mile more dependent on him than any other player in this league has been important to their team this season. We can sell, (maybe) replace and move on. But I don't see how anyone can envisage a scenario where we're a stronger squad or it.