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Captain

30 fucking million pounds. 😆

Curtis

I have no idea but I've decided that M'Vila's the one that I want!

Qwiss

Well I don't give a fuck if he's only worth £15m, I'd rather see us spend £30m on him than not, just wondering if he's even close to being worth that.

Nela

Can someone tell me what kind of player he is? If we're really after him would he be replacing Song or playing with Song?

And while I've been very critical of Song, is a DM replacement really worth 25 million?

Klaus

qs! wrote:
Is M'Vila really that good?

I really don't think he is, but if the club confirms that we've actually bid £25 million for him I'll concede that I'm probably wrong. Arsenal would never splash that kind of money for the M'Vila I've seen. Especially not when we've got so many obvious problems in the attack.

Qwiss

Yeah I can't see Wenger spending that kind of cash on someone he doesn't think is the absolute shit. Can he adapt his game to play more box to box? Dare I say it... a new Vieira?

Ricky1985

He's supposed to be the real deal, Nela, but no one on here has watched him enough to say for sure. From the little I've seen of him he seems like a cross between Gilberto Silva and a more energetic midfielder like Flamini or Frimpong, or dare I say, Vieira.

I take the attitude that if Wenger is prepared to pay upwards of £20M for him, he must be bloody incredible.

Edit - in agreement with Klaus and Qs basically. 🙂

goon

I'm guessing if he came the plan would be for Wilshere to be our new creative midfielder, which isn't a terrible idea.

kamikaze

Fucks sake, I'd rather just pay 20m for Kagawa and 10m for Vidal. Does the guy even speak English? How is he gonna be a leader I'm defence?

Qwiss

Don't think it is a terrible idea at all. Having watched Wilshere from an early age I can safely say he was playing well within himself last season. There is loads more to come from him in terms of what he can do in the final 3rd. And hopefully he'd play a bit deeper than Cesc did too. Having a good solid midfield and a new look defence could be a revolution for us.

Nela

I just have a hard time believing Wenger would spend that kind of money on a defensive midfielder, but won't for someone like Hazard.

y va marquer

Not a terrible idea at all otf.

In relation to the price - just pay up, if he's what we absolutely need he's worth the extra £5m.

Can't say myself with any authority that he is or isn't worth it, but if we're already prepared to put £25m on the table then we're edging towards the super quality that Arsene's been chatting about.

Nela

Wilshere as the main creative midfielder is an obvious choice IMO. It's his natural position afterall. But we need a top class talent to play in the front three with RvP.

Qwiss

Nela wrote:
Wilshere as the main creative midfielder is an obvious choice IMO. It's his natural position afterall. But we need a top class talent to play in the front three with RvP.

If Walcott can stay fit this year I think he'll push Robin for goals. And I think Gervinho looks the business too. Its beyond that I start to worry, Arshavin 😐

Klaus

I think M'Vila looks nothing like Vieira, but there you go. Last season I saw him a dozen or so times perhaps perhaps and didn't pay attention to him specifically in those games, so it's obviously from limited viewings. But to me he looks like a holding midfielder that sits back, plays in his square and distributes the ball sideways more often than not. The high pass completion stats people are quoting everywhere are consistent with that view.

qs! wrote:
Can he adapt his game to play more box to box?

Who knows with Wenger really. He always seem to sign players based on what they can do rather than what they're doing at the moment. I suppose that's why he found a brilliant centreback in Vermaelen where others only saw a half-decent fullback.

Curtis

Nela wrote:
I just have a hard time believing Wenger would spend that kind of money on a defensive midfielder, but won't for someone like Hazard.

First of all I'm not sure he's a defensive midfielder in the way that Song is a defensive midfielder. Like Ricky said he's probably somewhere between Gilberto ("pure" defensive midfielder) and Flamini (box to box). He's supposedly a good passer of the ball as well and very good in possession. And it kinda makes sense that we'd get a player who is very rarely dispossessed now that we don't have Fabregas anymore, doesn't it?

Second of all I doubt £30 million would get us Hazard. It would probably be around £40-50 million instead.

Qwiss

I said it Klaus because he looks to do alot of running for an out and out DM, and lets not forget Vieira started as a very defensive minded midfielder, his game grew over the years into being a more rounded box to box player. M'Vila seems to have that engine and I just don't see Wenger spending big on someone to do a simple defensive midfield role.

Nela

qs! wrote:
Nela wrote:
Wilshere as the main creative midfielder is an obvious choice IMO. It's his natural position afterall. But we need a top class talent to play in the front three with RvP.

If Walcott can stay fit this year I think he'll push Robin for goals. And I think Gervinho looks the business too. Its beyond that I start to worry, Arshavin 😐

Theo will get us goals. Of that I have not doubt. And Gervinho looks promising(although I'm a bit worried by his poor shooting). But I think we need 1 top class attacker to play on one side with either Theo/Gervinho/other-player-we-already-have on the other side.

Regardless of how we structure our midfield, we cannot rely on one player to create almost everything like we did with Cesc. So we need another real top class option in the front three who can do it on his own without waiting for the playmaker to deliver a perfect ball to him.

Captain

Martin and M'vila. 😐

Curtis

Klaus wrote:
I think M'Vila looks nothing like Vieira, but there you go. Last season I saw him a dozen or so times perhaps perhaps and didn't pay attention to him specifically in those games, so it's obviously from limited viewings. But to me he looks like a holding midfielder that sits back, plays in his square and distributes the ball sideways more often than not. The high pass completion stats people are quoting everywhere are consistent with that view.

qs! wrote:
Can he adapt his game to play more box to box?

Who knows with Wenger really. He always seem to sign players based on what they can do rather than what they're doing at the moment. I suppose that's why he found a brilliant centreback in Vermaelen where others only saw a half-decent fullback.

This blog agrees with your view Klaus: http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/qdxtgnkone2lvlhdyyo11a/Show/Why-Yann-MVila-is-Mr-Dependable-for-Rennes-and-France-at-Just-21

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