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Premier League 25/26 Discussion

Dom

Palace are closer to Chelsea than Chelsea are to Arsenal.

Qwiss

Neto's diving is really pathetic. The Portuguese should be banned from football.

Dom

Wharton's vision and eye for a pass are outstanding. If he was more naturally athletic and mobile he'd have the talent to become one of the top CMs in the world.

Segway

Dom He's really good. Will be annoying to see him join one of our rivals in the future.

Qwiss

Dom talk is United are going for him this week after missing on Baleba.

Dom

Qwiss

Better than him going to Liverpool or City from an Arsenal POV, but that'd be an awful move for him.

Qwiss

That law 13 is some load of bollox. That said Guehi just pushes a hole in the wall, enough in it to give a free out regardless of that weird law.

RocktheCasbah

Qwiss yeah, having just seen it, given the rules, it's pretty clear the goal should be disallowed.

RowJimmy

Qwiss
Agree it looks a foul. But there's never a full meter between offensive players and the wall. Never ever.

flobaba

Very solid point collected there by Palace. Impressed by their manager. He's put together a very compact and disciplined unit.

Meatwad

i need an explanation for that tarkowski penalty against leeds. his arm seemed to be going behind his back.

USArsenal

Meatwad

The ball hit his arm to deny a goal scoring opportunity, and even though he put his arm behind his back, they claim he purposely leaned into the ball to stop it.

Burnwinter

Haven't you heard? It's the lean. He was leaning.

PGMO(L) can't be left to referee the laws, there's an embarrassing lack of sophistication in their thinking.

Every season they stick a finger up and say "this year we're going to make handball decisions differently" then reveal for weeks on end they haven't thought any of it through.

RowJimmy

I actually think that was the right call. He was leaning in an effort to stop the shot, which was on target. The arm, however close to his body, makes him bigger. If he moves a touch faster it hits his chest - football is full of things where a split second (an inch) makes all the difference.

flobaba

RowJimmy so, chop off his arms?

The “unnatural position” rule, makes sense. The making himself bigger rule makes sense. The lean in rule, is just dumb.

Burnwinter

It doesn't really matter if it's wrong or right, the issue is how PGMO struggle to articulate their premises and stick to them.

RowJimmy

flobaba
No, just got to actually get there so it hits his chest. Like a tackle - if you don't quite get to the ball, it's a foul.

Asterix

Klaus Reijnders is exactly as good as he showed unfortunately. Bloke has no real weaknesses: he's as good as they come in any central mid position, whether it's attacking or defending. Just a complete footballer.

I targeted him and picked him up in my Fantasy auction squad - very happy to have done so too. He had a good pre season for them too.

Dom

I'm coming around to the idea of VAR not being involved in any penalty or goal decision unless called upon (except for offsides).

Instead, each team has two appeals they can use if they think they should be awarded a penalty or to appeal a penalty/goal against them. VAR then has the final say in the decision and there's no nonsense with the match referee running over to the monitor.

It gets on my nerves that we're regularly in a state of stupor whenever a goal's scored or a penalty's denied/awarded. Would this make the English officiating less incompetent? No, but the game would flow a bit more if you leave it with the players when to invoke VAR.

invisibleman18

Dom That would still just end up with pretty much every goal going to VAR wouldn’t it? You’d always appeal it if you could just in case there was some bullshit thing that got missed.

Burnwinter

Dom This would work fairly well:

Use an automated video process via Hawk-Eye style technology for offside, boundary or goal-line decisions. Get that tech to the point it just works with minimal or no supervision.
Captains are allowed to call on the VAR once per half (once more for extra time) on penalties, free kicks, red and yellow cards, and other discretionary decisions.

But I think the match referee has to rule on the second kind of VAR process and they should be miked when they do.

If an off-field VAR rules on contentious decisions, we've seen they're reluctant to change the initial decision (and the "obvious error" criterion doesn't work).

This leads to the VARs doubling down on bad decisions and degrades the match referee's accountability.

If the number of captain-initiated VAR processes per match were under 4 we'd be alright. One per half seems safer than two total, otherwise you get annoying strategic use of appeals to waste time at the ends of matches.

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