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Big bad Berta

awooga83

Qwiss yeah city had seen he was not good enough for any team going for the top trophies he wasn't an elite footballer, had injury problems already and wasn't a consistent scorer.

Klaus

Qwiss I don't get either how people talk about him like a ballon d'Or contender when he was an unwanted backup striker at City. He wasn't even equal to the striker he replaced here, neither in talent nor reputation. We were the only ones who wanted to throw that money on him and it didn't work out for all the reasons that made other clubs hesitate.

Mirth

Qwiss hate to admit it but City were spot in selling us Zinchenko and Jesus. At best their level was top 4 but we had to cut them out to truly challenge consistently as well.

Qwiss

Mirth I think culturally for Arteta they were probably important in him getting control of the dressing room but they are both extremely flawed players and were never going to be starters in a title winning team.

QuincyAbeyie

Mirth I agree that City didn't need them, but not the other part. We could've easily won the league in 22/23 with those two, but just didn't have the squad depth we have now.

Gunner89

Mirth jesus was excellent till his knee injury ruined him in the wc, this is backed up by the fact he nearly scored 100 goals for city before turning 25

Zinchenko was decent first season but by the 2nd half of it was already getting found out

He was barely a rotation player - Oleksandr Zinchenko had a maximum of 15 Premier League starts for City and that was just one season

Mirth

QuincyAbeyie I suppose by definition we could have outperformed and won the league but based on the larger sample size of 3-4 years I think they’ve shown their level.

Gunner89

people getting dramatical for no reason

Lot of biz to be done for many major clubs

Arsenal - Winger/forward - elite tier
Utd - Midfielder + lb
Liverpool - Marquee winger + 1 more (iraola said)
Barcelona - Marquee forward
Chelsea - Lots of sales + replacement for enzo etc

and then seperately spurs too

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