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Arteta - one more year and that’s it

Mirth

21/22 doesn’t look too bad in retrospect given that it laid the foundation for what came next but I don’t remember particularly enjoying that season.

Qwiss

Mirth it was nice to have proper football back with fans in the stadium. From an Arsenal perspective we were still well below where we should have been though.

RocktheCasbah

jones I guess because my enjoyment of a football season isn't predicated on winning something at the end of it.

For me, it was - and is - about going to games (and hopefully you do get to enjoy the game) with your mates or, in this particular season, mates and family and experiencing the football hit. As Mirth says this was the season which laid the foundation for the title challenge the year after. Looking back over the season's results, we had some howlers in there, not only did we lose 3, 4 and 5 at Spurs, Liverpool and City respectively, we also somehow lost 3-0 to Crystal bloody Palace. I'd completely forgotten that.

But that isn't what I think of when I think of that season, I think of the goal of the season Lacazette scored at home to Southampton, out of the blue after 20 very ordinary minutes. I think of how James missed it as he'd gone for a first half piss. I think of how magnificent we were in the first hour against Manchester City, New Year's Day bringing the promise of a new Arsenal, even if we lost in the end. I think of beating Chelsea away and United at home in the space of a few days. I think of the final day of the season and a day which could have been horrible after the failures at Spurs and Newcastle and how, in glorious sunshine, the team, our team, absolutely battered Everton in front of a crowd which was totally behind the manager.

But that's just me. As I said earlier, I know I was in the minority here as to how that season went.

Mirth

RocktheCasbah I think of how magnificent we were in the first hour against Manchester City, New Year's Day bringing the promise of a new Arsenal, even if we lost in the end.

I'd forgotten about that - that first half is some the best football I've ever seen us play in a decade or more .

jones

RocktheCasbah I guess because my enjoyment of a football season isn't predicated on winning something at the end of it.

neither is mine. I enjoy watching good football and having a good time with mates as much as the next man, but regardless to how many stadiums all over Europe I have been no big night away or home weekend ever matches up to the dopamine release after a final.

To be honest I've no idea how exactly what you describe differs from any other season, you get sunshine and couple of decent matches every year. Then again most of yous will turn your nose up at it but when Frankfurt won the Europa League in 2022 that was the greatest night of my time as a football fan bar 15 May 2004.

Don Pacifico

Mirth yeah, that's when it started to feel like something was happening with the squad/team. Think most of us went into that match thinking we had no hope and then dominated the first half; should have won but for Gabs getting sent off.

RocktheCasbah

because after the dog days of Wenger, the Emery disasterclass and then - and I think Qwiss is probably onto something when he referenced it - having fans back in the stadium post covid, it really felt to me that I was getting my Arsenal back. I can't explain it any other way, but it really was as simple as that.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Lol the only good thing about 21/22 was part of the City game at home. That was, finally, a glimpse of what Arteta had been building towards.

The losses to Newcastle and Spurs made for a truly revolting week.

JazzG

That clip highlights the problem, Partey does well to nick the ball has to leave it to Trossard/Odegaard there. That stat from Billy is ridiculous, we seem to do everything right except putting it away!

Klaus

But I thought turnovers and counterattacks didn't happen in Premier League, where defences are just a solid lego wall 18 yards from the goal.

Gurgen

That clip above is outrageous. How the fuck do you not score if you win the ball in the opposition's box?

JazzG

Klaus Harsh on Trossard there, he gets a nasty pass from Partey first and then has a defender on him straight away. Partey is mainly at fault but to be fair he also created the chance. Has no awareness of what is around him, Odegaard should not be running towards the ball either it has to be taken by Trossard first time. Trossard hesitates, he probably has seen Partey and Odegaard running at the ball and he should be running full steam at the ball and putting his foot through the ball and Partey if needed!

Gurgen Life of an Arsenal fan!

Klaus That reminds me of the clip below, Henry talks about the advice Wenger gave him about understanding how to move depending on who had the ball.

Panda

Trossard was CF that day wonder what would happen if that was Gyok. I imagine he'd tell Partey to get the fuck out the way and at least manage a shot on target.

daredevil

Partey fucked the opportunity up - he should be leaving the ball for Trossard to shoot and Trossard should be going at the ball with full intensity to shoot.

Klaus

daredevil Two players who can't do anything with their weaker foot. Look at Partey nearly pulling a hamstring just so he can toe the bloody ball with his right, and Trossard needing five yards and three touches to reposition himself for a shot. Shambles.

Qwiss

Klaus and Trossard needing five yards and three touches to reposition himself for a shot.

This is an issue with most of our attacking players.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Our players are always either walking on quicksand or falling over like it's their first time rollerblading when they're in the box.

Embarrassing. You don't see that with decisive teams like Liverpool.

Klaus

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert Think it was Cruijff (or possibly Wenger) who said that training with better players raises the general intelligence in the team. Even if you're not a natural goalscorer you know what Henry would do in a certain situation after a while. If you watch him putting the boot through the ball on the training ground you'll try to do the same. If you train with strikers who lack those instincts on the other hand...

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Klaus very true. Havertz demonstrating shooting wearing sofa cushions instead of football boots in training cannot be very helpful.

Looking forward to Viktor showing them how it's done.

I also think the attackers need to receive minimal instructions when in the box; it's all about intuition and instinct.

Mirth

Klaus you just have to look at how much Adebayor improved by hanging around Henry for 2 years

Klaus

JazzG Harsh on Trossard there, he gets a nasty pass from Partey first and then has a defender on him straight away.

Wasn't thinking about the first pass but the way he twists and turns after that to get the ball into his right foot. If you're gonna be a forward you need to hit the ball before a 2-vs-1 situation turns into 2-vs-3. Agree Partey is the main culprit though, bloody hell.

USArsenal

JazzG it has to be taken by Trossard first tim

This.. Partey needed to nick the ball from the defender, and then see Trossard running full steam at it to take the shot, and he shoulda gotten the fuck out of the way. If its one thing Tross can do is put away a chance from there.

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