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Arteta - one more year and that’s it

flobaba

He's on point technically. That right foot curler is sweet.

Just feels like he's going to be a tad soft for the premier league. One v one, full backs at the top level are beasts. Think Timber, Hakimi. How does Rodrygo help us against a player like this?

Coombs

flobaba by drifting inside and playing in Yoki.

JazzG

Coombs I don't even want to know what compilation you've been watching!

Gazza M

Claudius add leao to your scouting data as well pls. 😆

Claudius

Gazza M nah. Leao is more interesting conceptually for me. Feels like someone who is massively underperforming. You need extended video scouting of him, not data driven to see if he really has the physicality and mentality.

HomeSteak

Claudius it will say, Rodrygo is a baller and we need to get him, even if it means we still deal with Havertz as a striker. He is that good

Claudius

HomeSteak I’m a big Rodrygo fan. Have watched lots of him last few years. For those less familiar, look for his work last year and two seasons ago. For various reasons ( two better left wingers, no creativity in midfield), he dropped off this year.

Qwiss

Claudius his league goal scoring has never been spectacular, this season is a drop but even before that he's scoring 10 and 9. That's well within Martinelli territory. Rodrygo for me is around the same area as Martinelli, Williams, Gordon, etc but he is probably the most costly of them. If we got any of them I'd be excited but he's certainly not someone I'd be willing to forego getting a striker for.

Coombs

Qwiss he's certainly not someone I'd be willing to forego getting a striker for.

Certainly not. Is that the conversation? That would be unacceptable.

USArsenal

My biggest fear with Rodrygo is the physicality of the league. He would get knocked all over the place and he would have to either suck it up or crash and burn. He would have to get a lot stronger, he was bouncing off MLS in our game, and as strong as MLS might be at 18, there are bigger and stronger players in the EPL. He's got talent for days, that's clear, but would he deal with the bad tackles, etc., in the EPL, or would he end up like Reyes. (when he had to escape back to Spain)

JazzG

USArsenal he league. He would get knocked all over the place and he would have to either suck it up or crash and burn. He would have to get a lot stronger, he was bouncing off MLS in our game, and as strong as MLS might be at 18, there are bigger and stronger players in the EPL. He's got talent for days, that's clear, but would he deal with the bad tackles, etc., in the EPL, or would he end up like Reyes. (when he had to escape back to Spain)

I've always found this guys analysis pretty decent and says the same thing, physically in this league you have to be up to the challenge. I think that is why Antony failed as well, this league was physical for him and he has thrived in the less physical La Liga.

lorddulaarsenal

Good. Way too pale a complexion to be successful

Mirth

lorddulaarsenal I mean, it’s not like he did anything with his opportunity as top dog to make it worth keeping around.

Qwiss

lorddulaarsenal needs to spend the summer with Ben White.

jones

lorddulaarsenal probably a bit unfair but if we had promoted him to full DoF I'd have stopped watching us until he's gone. No one with that type of perennially confused face has ever been a success at anything

lorddulaarsenal

Yep Ben Orange knows how to brighten things up

JazzG

Havertz & Saka injuries play their part in this stat but no other player looked likely to break 10+ goals this season and that is a massive problem

Gurgen

There’s things I don’t like about him but objectively Arteta is a miracle worker.

JazzG

Gurgen When you think about it, finishing 2nd without a single playing score 10 PL goals is actually mental.

We've lost the same number of games as Liverpool, they've just had the fire power to convert more draws into wins.

Claudius

Gurgen fucked up the transfer window but this might be his best season coaching the players at is disposal

Gazza M

Gurgen this is why I didn't want us to panic buy a striker in january. I knew the title was gone regardless, but had a feeling we had enough about us to scrape 2nd. it would've been awful if we saddled ourselves with a middling striker in january and ended up finishing 2nd anyway.

JazzG

Claudius I do wonder if it is him or the higher ups who didn't back us. He has been very outspoken in January and now again at our need to find players.

Tam

Claudius I’ve said before he’s done well with what he’s had considering how the season shaped up. But it’s not a success story. As I’ve also said, a completely unforeseen collapse of the top clubs have given us a fairly easy run at second place, and every year for the past 10 or so we’d have been 4th or 5th place.

All too often we’ve looked one dimensional, lacked impetus, and played within ourselves.

I’d strongly disagree he’s a miracle worker or that this season has been his best in coaching.

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