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Martin Zubimendi

Sicario2

Don Pacifico
Don’t be naive man. Arsenal would have briefed the journalists on this. It’s a clear PR move as I’ve seen it. You only do these moves in a crisis 😉

Don Pacifico

Sicario2 happy for you to call me naive so long as you promise to keep wearing your tin foil hat. 😉

JazzG

Sicario2 Possibly true but I also think that we haven't just quickly agreed a deal with Zubimendi to keep the fans happy, this was probably done in the last few months or maybe even last summer.

We run a tighter operation these days, unlike in the summer where Liverpool end up getting embarrassed I don't think we'd brief journalists without knowing this deal is done.

samthegooner

lorddulaarsenal Partey from 2-3 seasons ago was but not the current iteration and especially not when you take into account the shame he puts on the kit every time we march him out there. He's lost all his athleticism on the field and while Zubimendi isn't going to fill his older boots, he's a more fluid athlete than both Jorginho and Partey are currently while being an elite reader of the game a la Jorginho.

Coombs

lorddulaarsenal Zubs > Partey. You just have a good memory.

lorddulaarsenal

Partey has been performing very well this season

Coombs

lorddulaarsenal feel like the bar is low. He's been OK in games, bad in others, with only a few moments that roll back the years.

Sicario2

lorddulaarsenal
Indeed. Our top 3 player this season. Instrumental for our second goal tonight. Sell Jorg, get Zubi in and keep Partey for back up. He’s innocent till guilty and if we have kept him this long then another year doesn't make a difference. We need squad depth.

flobaba

Partey is better, but I don't care. Needs to go poof, and disappear.

CPM

I think Partey has been one of our best players this season. Not the character you want to keep around, but from a sporting perspective I'd like him on the team next year. Ideally Zubi is a Jorgi replacement, and gets some time to adjust to the PL.

I share the concerns about Rice as an 8, but a lot of the problems with him playing there get solved with 2-3 more dynamic forwards (and a peak-condition Ødegaard).

JazzG

Missed this from yesterday, yet again Arteta being a driving force why top players want to join.

Let’s hope we can get this over the line

samthegooner

Sicario2 Nope. There’s enough smoke to that fire to put him in the bin regardless. We should not be keeping him around for any reason this summer. I couldn’t care less if he was player of the season for the rest of this season. Enough is enough. He’s been a stain on this club for the last 18 months and I can’t stand seeing him in our colors for any longer than necessary.

JazzG

Sicario2 Do you think he's actually back or is this the usual bump in performance we see when a player has a year to run on his contract? I think we need to move on, he'll probably get a big contract elsewhere which we shouldn't match.

Qwiss

Sicario2 nah its time to let Partey go. Even putting aside the moral argument he's getting older, its a miracle he's been fit this season and we should be moving on anyway. He's out of contract and would likely want 2 or 3 years on a wage rise. Deal makes no sense even without the rapes.

Gazza M

were an isak away from completing the sociedad infinity stones set

banduan

Gazza M were an isak away from completing the sociedad infinity stones set

might as well do it then. GOWAN ISAK ALL YOU MATES HERE.

Sicario2

JazzG does it matter if it’s contract related? As long as we only offer him rolling one year contracts it’s fine. His performance are the metric, doesn’t matter the why.

JazzG

Sicario2 does it matter if it’s contract related? As long as we only offer him rolling one year contracts it’s fine. His performance are the metric, doesn’t matter the why.

Do you think he'd take a one year rolling contract when he might get a fat multi year contract in Saudi?

RocktheCasbah

well, it does if he's on £250k per week. You don't pay that to 32 year old back ups.

I saw something in the Ghana media last week, basically saying the decision has been made anyway.

Tam

RocktheCasbah I saw something in the Ghana media last week,

I'd peg you as being quite well-read, but wouldn't necessarily have you down as an avid consumer of the Ghanian media.

He was great in the build up to Trossard's goal last night, and have quite a few positive moments elsewhere, but he was massively sloppy overall. At times it didn't seem like we had a midfield in the first half. It was almost like a basketball game in the back and forths and ease with which they could walk through us. He was sloppy in possession on the edge of our defensive third, being lucky to keep it on a couple of occasions, and negligent in losing it on others. I can't see on balance how anyone thinks he was a net positive last night.

lorddulaarsenal

Qwiss Partey and Jorginho out

Zubimendi and MLS playing in midfield

RocktheCasbah

Tam I'd peg you as being quite well-read, but wouldn't necessarily have you down as an avid consumer of the Ghanian media.

Oh yeah, all the media all the time, me....

daredevil

Tam

The back and forth is a consequence of loosening control and being more risk taking and vertical. That's why there is such a desire to exert so much control in the first place because you want to avoid these types of exchanges, and ideally suffocate the opponent but that can come at the cost of verticality. On the other hand, if you're being more vertical, less positionally rigid and playing more at pace, you will lose the ball more often, the opponent will get to attack more often and then it descends into that type of game. So it's a case of picking your poison.

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