We'd be better off facing six corners in lieu of each of Rice, Trossard and Saliba's reds, as well as the penalty on Saliba for winning a defensive header. Give Brighton, City, whoever those twenty-four corners. We'd probably be leading the league if it happened.

9 days later

This lot needs to be investigated. Wire tapped , hacked , spied on , the full works. Michael Oliver and Webb especially

Not even Shearer thinks this was a red. This was the worst of the lot this season.

  • JazzG

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It is just blatant corruption at this point, the refs are showing they can do what they like and there is nothing we can do about it.

  • naz

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Anyone who says this shit evens itself out over the year is blind. We are targeted, even Stevie Wonder could see it.

This is what sky wrote
"Michael Oliver doesn't like to "impact games negatively by overreacting" apparently. That's what PGMOL chief Howard Webb said last season when Mateo Kovacic avoided a red card for Man City at Arsenal. Did he need to send Lewis-Skelly off there?"

Here's another stat for you
"He handed out a red to arsenal in 15% of their games. 1.8% for Liverpool. 0% for City in 50 games"

    naz he clearly has an issue with us. I don’t mind getting red cards. It the MLS, Martinelli, Trossard reds are all just rubbish. I used to not pay attention to the referee talk until this season but this dastardly cabal has now shown its hand

      A scan of all the newspapers and channels shows broad support. Only independent has seemed ambivalent.
      https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/13296511/five-issues-with-myles-lewis-skellys-red-card-in-arsenals-win-at-wolves-premier-league-hits-and-misses

      United appealed Bruno rat face Fernandez’s red card last year. We should do the same. And find a third party to start broadcasting all the times Michael Oliver has punished us so we can avoid him.

        Lewis-Skelly made a snap decision to halt the counterattack and trip Doherty, catching the defender around his ankle. It was a touch crude but not high, forceful or malicious, a tactical foul if ever there was one. Oliver had a prime view of the incident and immediately informed the officials he planned to pull out a red card. Then he flashed it at Lewis-Skelly. Just as curious was the VAR Darren England’s swift decision to back Oliver’s call.

        From the Graun match report. The journos know something's up now. Michael Oliver has finally succeeded in making PGMOL the story.

          Match of the Day have been quite unanimous in their condemnation of the decision. Comes to something when Michael Oliver's image is the first one they show in the analysis.

          Claudius
          These refs operate with such impunity. It's unbelievable.

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            My question is okay. Ban gets rescinded. What then? What is the penalty when the refs get it wrong? Does Darren England step down? Is Michael Oliver demoted? We managed to eke out three points here, but what if we hadn't? The FA is obviously happy to have the refs decide who wins the league, if mistakes of this magnitude can continue to happen with zero consequence, zero accountability. I can't understand it.

              flobaba the big thing is we finally get a spotlight on the referee. If you cast your mind back to the fall when we had the Trossard and Rice decisions, the spotlight was on us - and narratives were created about dark arts. I don’t think PGMOL are corrupt. I think they are biased, and the media reinforces these biases with their toxic commentary about us. Corners are dark arts, the manager is out of his box, Saka is diving when he has cuts on his legs, etc.

              The refs are watching the games on their off days, listening to this shit. And they come in and hit us.

              We need to break that cycle, and I think this is the moment the refs overstepped.

                  Claudius A scan of all the newspapers and channels shows broad support. Only independent has seemed ambivalent.

                  Let’s see what their mouthpiece sky sports have to say about this. But considering the rest of the media seem to all be in disbelief they’ll struggle to spin this one. The ref getting it wrong is bad enough but they reviewed and decided it wasn’t a clear and obvious error, unbelievable

                  We won the match so we might just let it go but if we had drawn or lost I think Arteta would have rightly gone nuclear at the end.

                    Apparently Darren Lewis is reporting that the PGMOL are standing behind the decision, which seems a little daft given that a way worse tackle than Skelly's only received a yellow card. I don't see how that's a defendable position, but I'm sure Mr Webb will find a way.