• Qwiss

  • Post #125

Panda Does anyone know what is going on with Sky and the refs? Why do they keep backing their dreadful decisions?

It's every game now since they got their ref show. They're doing it right now on 2 decisions not given to Fulham.

    • Coombs

    • Post #126
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    awooga83 I get the ball hit his head but Saliba still made contact with their player after the ball is gone.

    Making contact is not a foul. The Lamptey decision was bad as well, as was the Odegaard handball. Refs were against Klopp so they helped us out last season. He's gone now.

      awooga83 I did see someone reference the game against Brighton last season where Lamptey gave away a penalty against Jesus for a challenge where he also touched the ball.

      I think this is a valid point and this is why I don't necessarily think the penalty was all that crazy of a call. One thing I will say, however, is that if we're going to referee upper body contact in the same way that we referee lower body contact (and I think we probably should, on the merits) then the Brighton player that Superman-jumped into Declan Rice's face should have gotten a red card.

        • Mirth

        • Post #128

        This is phenomenal from Dermot. 👏

          • jones

          • Post #131

          "people say he got the ball - he didn't, the ball got him" is something else. Been calling for PL refs to get stabbed, publicly castrated etc pp since the days of Mike Riley but this punditry is a whole new level. Calciopoli is calm compared to what we're watching every weekend

            The ball got him. He’s part of a dark arts clan that cheats by scoring headers. He deserves maximum punishment for besmirching the beautiful game.

            • JazzG

            • Post #133

            • Qwiss

            • Post #135

            JazzG they never even noticed Saliba getting the ball. I'm not 100% either way on the decision itself but that check was too quick and didn't focus on what actually mattered. Dermot Gallaghers "he touched it but didn't head it" is a bullshit distinction that doesn't matter. You can see from the whole thing that VAR never noticed Salibas touch because they rushed it and they are just making excuses now.

                Qwiss all that happened there was the referee had a bad angle. He stuck to his poor decision. And his buddies in VAR backed him because it’s a bad look to contradict each other. Dermot similarly fell in line.

                PGMOL should be a case study on group think and conformity biases. Because their actions consistently show that they haven’t developed mechanisms for disagreement.

                  • jones

                  • Post #137

                  JazzG can't see the link Sky is geo blocked. Thank God, would've just made my blood pressure spike

                    • jones

                    • Post #138

                    Qwiss does it even matter if he touched the ball? I can't remember a single instance of a clash of heads leading to a penalty.

                        In both cases I can't see why Taylor would be awarding a red and relying on the VAR to overrule rather than awarding a yellow or waving play on, with the option of the VAR increasing any penalty on review.

                        There's a skill deficit among top flight referees. Not sure how to fix it unless Howard Webb is cleared out first.

                        • Qwiss

                        • Post #140

                        jones I can see how you could call it a late challenge but that only works if you discount the contact.

                            • jones

                            • Post #141

                            Qwiss I see how you could do that theoretically but that seems to me like another of those "technically" rules that are never applied in reality

                              8 days later

                              Last two games (pen v Utd and last night it wasn’t a corner for our first goal) we got very favourable decisions.

                              Despite the theory of that ref’s are against us, over a season, these things cancel out as seen in the last two games.

                              A pen is a very favorable dedicion because it's a goal about 75 % of the time or something like that. A corner isn't a very favorable decision just because we scored after the fact.