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Tam

Burnwinter Not to absolve or defend Coote, but if I'm put in a position where I've got to stand on a touchline and have abuse screamed in my face from the likes of Klopp, without him receiving any meaningful reprimand for it, I'd have pretty colourful views on him as well.

I also think it shouldn't be a problem for people to both hold contrary views of individuals and be trusted to ref impartially. You would expect any professional to act within the rules, referees included.

The problem is that in many cases perceived bias and impartiality is being conflated with incompetence and poor structures, and resulting in some wild conspiracies.

That's separate from the clear conflicts in picking up ref jobs abroad linked to PL clubs.

JazzG

My apologies, Indonesian hookers not Thai.

Burnwinter

JazzG Yep, that's gross. Fucking sex creeps on tour.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

This just gets better and better.

flobaba

So he did some coke, fucked some hos, and insulted someone he didn’t like.

He ought to be executed. Firing squad.

Don’t care much for this story if I’m honest. His crime is poor judgement, which ironically is the real problem for me, and why I think he has to go, as that’s basically what his job is all about.

What they get up to in their spare time is their business, but he can’t be letting this shit get recorded on video.

awooga83

flobaba I agree about not going to judge someone on specific actions even if I personally disagree with them. His poor judgement means that those private actions have become public and there does have to be accountability for those decisions. For me it means you can't be a referee as someone with a public profile and requiring trust that's gone now.

My bigger issue is what did the PGMOL know, if you were made aware of that incidents and don't have a means to intervene or discipline appropriately then you really aren't fit for purpose. What happens if he was a drug addict and it could be impacting his decisions? From the stories it looks like they aren't discrete so doesn't seem likely nobody have known something is going on that might need action.

lorddulaarsenal

Coote on the Toot

Big Willie

JazzG

😂

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Now I’m getting at the stage of worrying about this guys mental wellbeing

https://talksport.com/football/2270407/david-coote-premier-league-referee-drug-party-tottenham-man-city/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2024-11-14-Fresh-claims-

My advice to him : announce tomorrow you are quitting reffing for good. Start a ‘fun’ podcast. Will be rich over night.

Podcast could be called ‘Beyond the white line’ 🤪

Burnwinter

Sicario2 - Tier 1 Podcast could be called ‘Beyond the white line’

😆 A disgraced ex-ref hosting a podcast called "White Lines" with this as the intro theme would probably kill the market.

lorddulaarsenal

“Surely he should have been concentrating on the game and not arranging drug parties” 😂

Mirth

Burnwinter

Just gonna leave this here.

You can talk about our inadequate attack all you want, but in my view we've just been fucked out of another two points.

They've been inventing new reasons to fuck us all season. As Arteta said post match it took them "three seconds" to look into this incorrect decision and double down.

flobaba

I mean we can’t re referee the game, and it’s a super high bar for interventions isn’t it.

Burnwinter

Taylor had to clear a very high bar just to give the penalty.

First he had to give a type of decision that's almost never given, even though it would influence the outcome of the match.

Then he had to choose to give this almost unprecedented decision even though it was incorrect.

And to give this incorrect decision he either had to overrule the evidence of his own eyes or ignore the lack of it.

He's really outdone himself, it's a masterpiece. Frankly given the sheer effort and talent Taylor put into fucking this one up, the VAR probably would've felt rude to call the error "clear and obvious".

Claudius

Burnwinter a penalty is scored 4 times in 5. You are basically awarding a goal for a moment that will amount to nothing and that was a fair challenge in the end. At least let it be a shot taking action. It’s a decision deserving of a demotion

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Burn them all.

awooga83

I did see someone reference the game against Brighton last season where Lamptey gave away a penalty against Jesus for a challenge where he also touched the ball. I get the ball hit his head but Saliba still made contact with their player after the ball is gone.

I think we are very unlucky that it got called because many times you get the benefit of the doubt but once it is I think VAR aren't going to intervene because Saliba did contact the player after the ball is gone.

Coombs

awooga83 I get the ball hit his head but Saliba still made contact with their player after the ball is gone.

Making contact is not a foul. The Lamptey decision was bad as well, as was the Odegaard handball. Refs were against Klopp so they helped us out last season. He's gone now.

DiabyKungFu

awooga83 I did see someone reference the game against Brighton last season where Lamptey gave away a penalty against Jesus for a challenge where he also touched the ball.

I think this is a valid point and this is why I don't necessarily think the penalty was all that crazy of a call. One thing I will say, however, is that if we're going to referee upper body contact in the same way that we referee lower body contact (and I think we probably should, on the merits) then the Brighton player that Superman-jumped into Declan Rice's face should have gotten a red card.

Claudius

A bit like Rice va Brighton, I’ve never seen this given. Feels like we signed up for the PGMOL experimentation package.

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