Summer 24: Page 4 - The Arsenal discussion community: One More in the Tolly

Summer 24

naz

Edu better get cooking soon. Get rid of the dead wood and bring in some new blood. We can't rely on Eddie to come on in dead rubber games so get rid of him. Do the same with the others

CPM

Sesko, Bruno, Eze

goon

Need a top winger imo. Much as I love Trossard, and he's scored some vital goals in the fun in, it's masked over the fact that he's often really struggled to make an impact on that left side.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

goon top winger, project CF who's got physical potential, and a world class technical midfielder.

Gazza M

goon agree with this. I think trossard has already more than fulfilled his transfer fee anyway, and I think we've used him excellently just as he's cresting his peak years. need someone more powerful, direct and dangerous to take his squad position

lorddulaarsenal

Yep plus another centreback because we’re a Saliba injury away from being porous

USArsenal

lorddulaarsenal
Im not sure i agree with this. We have much better backup than Holding now. Kiwior or Tomi or even Benny could do a better job there than Holding did. But having another option is always a good idea.

CPM

I wonder whether White plays more CB as Timber plays more RB. That would let us move for a starting left back instead of a CB.

But if Arteta really likes the idea of Timber at LB, then it makes a bit more sense to go for a 3rd center back.

USArsenal

After how Benny has played this season at RB, i dont see Timber displacing him. I see JT playing more on the left. But do we think Tomi is more of a CB backup?

Clrnc

USArsenal feel like Arteta really trust Tomi. Every time he is fit without risk he always plays, wherever it is. Like today at CB once Gabriel is injured.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Deadwood that need to leave:

Ramsdale
Zinny
Nelson
ESR
Eddie
Jesus

Claudius

Sicario2 - Tier 1 that’s a lot of work. There’s also the guys outside the team - Patino, Tavares, Tierney, Lokonga - whose time is up.

Coombs

Sicario2 - Tier 1 I'd keep most of them. Eddie and Reiss are the ones to move on, for bookkeeping reasons as much as anything.

Qwiss

Sicario2 - Tier 1 swap ESR with Vieira.

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Claudius
Those players you mentioned are a given.

I think it’s as important for the players I mentioned (esp Nelson, ESR and Eddie) to leave as it is vice versa.

No way should a 25 year old Nelson waste another year of his career on our bench.

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Coombs

Arteta needs a serious talk with ESR in the summer. Tell him shape up or get out. ESR’s had many chances this season and apart from Luton at home didn’t impress.

We got to be honest with these players and their careers which is short. I feel bad for players like Eddie wasting their careers doing nothing with us - sell him to Ipswich town and let him play his game ffs

Mirth

Sicario2 - Tier 1 ESR’s had many chances this season and apart from Luton at home didn’t impress.

Yeah, fake news. ESR has been given about 500 minutes across all competitions this season.

You can have your opinions on whether he’s good enough or not but he’s not been given a chance at all in 23/24 for whatever reason.

goon

Controversial maybe, but I reckon the time is right to sell Trossard unless Jesus goes. But I’d rather keep the latter.

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goon

Buy a winger and relegate Trossard to the bench.

Trossard is slow and may be not be effective over 90 but he’s a clutch player and would be amazing as a super sub.

Qwiss

goon Trossard came in as a squad member so I think he'll go back to that role without too much fuss. He's also on less than half of Jesus salary. Makes more sense to move Jesus on. Think Trossards been much better than Jesus since he's come in too.

DiabyKungFu

Mirth You can have your opinions on whether he’s good enough or not but he’s not been given a chance at all in 23/24 for whatever reason.

The reason that players are "not given a chance" 95% of the time is that they're not good enough.

Mirth

DiabyKungFu perhaps but that’s a separate point although he’s been consistent positive with his limited minutes. Also I think it’s highly likely ESR gets a bigger role next season anyway based on the fact that he’s featured more towards the end of the season - even the fact that he came on today was a clue

CPM

Mirth At a certain point, it's time to let the ESR dream go. He has some talent but he's not going to make it here. The team has gone up like three levels since he was playing in it. It's not even clear to me that he'll be a Premier League footballer in three years.

Gazza M Trossard is an end product machine, he definitely has a role here. Particularly with a more 'team-oriented' CF in Havertz, we need goals and assists from the wings.

Jesus looks totally shot on confidence, I wonder whether he's on his way out. He looks visibly upset at himself these days, you get the sense he wants to contribute so bad here but it's not really working anymore. I think Mikel loves his character but I don't think he suits our football.

Gazza M

goon that was at a different point in liverpools and citys cycle though. city hadn't yet established their penchant for consistent 90+ points tallys, and liverpool were nowhere near title challengers when those two joined. it's not really a like for like comparison. knowing what we now know about city and what it takes to beat them, I think we need something more than the 2 project players to give us the attacking boost we need

goon

Gazza M

But both quickly proved to be world class, which is where I’m coming from. It’s not like they took long either, Salah scored 32 in his debut season.

It’s a challenge but I don’t see us having much choice. Not just in terms of price but availability.

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