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Summer 24

HomeSteak

QuincyAbeyie

What's the difference between unofficial and 'officially opened' talks?

Qwiss

QuincyAbeyie I suppose there is informal talk as to whether its worth holding formal negotiations. And now there are formal negotiations.

Claudius

QuincyAbeyie you send an actual offer to the company email.

Typically, players market themselves. So if they a have permission to talk to other clubs they can go ahead and do that with the some understanding of a typical transfer fee. You want to get the player on board before wasting your time negotiating with his team.

Burnwinter

Sounds like the "internal debate" that's been reported over Merino's age has been settled then. Guess it might be timing or it might be because other unreported options have fallen through.

Qwiss

Interesting that some reports say they've rejected a £30m bid. Not sure I believe that and I hope we don't go too much higher if its true.

Clrnc

This will be done. Should be in our favour no issues since nobody else is in for him and the player only wants us again

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Clrnc

Even Merino needs an exit for PSR/FFP?

Then we can forget about getting in that striker/winger.

goon

Clrnc

Not necessarily, could be that we have already set aside funds for the winger/striker role.

samthegooner

There are multiple sources other than Ornstein who have stated that we don't have any PSR concerns this year or next and that any dependence on exits is purely a strategic choice. I still feel like we have other irons in the fire and that's the reason why this deal is dragging. My own personal theory is that we have two potential paths we are planning for over the next 17 days:

We sell Nketiah and at least one of Nelson/Kiwior: bring in a lower priced CM (Merino) and spend bigger on an attacker towards the end of the window.
We don't make sales or just sell Nketiah: bring in a higher priced CM (Guimaraes?) towards the end of the window

Qwiss

samthegooner really don't see us moving on from Merino to a bigger midfield signing. Small possibility we'd get Merino plus a big name in midfield but I wouldn't expect it at this stage.

Don Pacifico

goon this is what I was thinking.

samthegooner

Yep that's what I am thinking too. Although I don't think we would end the window without a new midfielder personally.

jones

Qwiss would rather him than Guimaraes. Either not ideal anyway

How the fuck have we spent 50m on another defender in yet another window anyway before addressing the clear holes in the squad

samthegooner

The only one I could see is Guimaraes. I still don't think we have moved on from him.

Claudius

jones the large spend on defense makes a lot of sense. Just look at our possession stats. Our DM and defenders have the ball basically up to 30% of an entire typical game. And then because we have so much of the ball in the opposition half, we end up with a lot of set pieces, and it’s these same rear half players who provide the offensive threat.
So it is weirdly coherent.

samthegooner

jones Interested to hear who you think we should have gone after this summer instead?

lorddulaarsenal

Claudius and we’ve strengthened an already great team by adding a quality duel monster at leftback

Only other position we can make a marked improvement on what we have is left wing

jones

Claudius it doesn't make sense if we still only field four defenders does it. Not only did we have a very solid backline we also play a very calculated type of football, what's the point of strengthening one part of the team where we're top of the league already when we regularly field Jorginho and Martinelli who seems terminally out of sorts these days

Claudius

lorddulaarsenal and he’s also the defender with most shots in Europe last season.

jones

samthegooner midfield first and foremost, we have a defensive physical specimen in Rice and Odegaard but no one who can link defence and attacking play regularly. Partey used to be great for that but neither should he be relied upon fitness wise nor should he be in there anyway.

Havertz as a CM is something I could see back in 019 but Chelsea and dare I say it Arteta coached all of his midfielder attributes out of him. We also need a Saka backup much more urgently than any addition in our backline but whoever comes in would have to have a gun to Mikel's head to get him to bench Saka from time to time anyway.

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