goon so far the names linked to them are promising. The way poch turned Chelsea around made me think he could improve united

    They have a bunch of shit players though. A lot of shit and a lot of inexperience. It would take a brave manager to go in there and try to get a consistent tune out of that band. Varane is done. Lisandro Martinez looks crocky. Dalot? Wan Bissaka? Luke Shaw? Some kid.

    In midfield another cacophony of pointlessness. Bruno, busted Casemiro, some random guy and some kid.

    Forward line. Rashford, 90millyAntony, not haaland, some ugly kids.

    Where do you want to start as a new manager. There's a lot to do, and united fans will not give you the time to do it. They're rabid animals. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Clrnc

    Good thing heโ€™s never won anything in English football.

    Poch to Utd would be a dream as we donโ€™t have to worry about them for a while.

    this saddens me. ETHs stiff jawed delusion that he could turn things around was a wonderful distraction. I reckon poch or tuchel will do better than him. they won't be the deep fix they need, but they will make more of what's available at united

    the ructions at barca, liverpool, bayern, Chelsea, United etc. makes one even more thankful of the stability we have going into next season. we have a great leg up on most of the field

    Woke up and seen the news. Just been sobbing uncontrollably tbh. Meant to be going to a beer garden today but I can't face it, not in this state. Someone please tell me this is fake news?

    I actually think he's been pretty unlucky. Can you imagine if we had Evans and Casemiro at the back? Or even Casemiro in midfield? The whole system falls apart, we'd instantly be a shitshow.

    His purchases have been a shitshow though. Casemiro, Mount, Antony... even Hojlund looks average to me. Two years after he's taken over the squad looks significantly worse.

    His supporters say that he didn't negotiate for Antony and the other fees but the fact is they were all high profile players HE wanted and the board backed him on those. He also had a veto on transfers he didn't want. Antony cost Ajax themselves 20 odd million, and obviously they'd charge a mark-up.

    Summer 2022 - We bid to Ajax for Martinez (First choice LB) for around 30-40m, United took negotiations to an extreme and ended up paying 50-60m. Pony up another 80m because now Ajax realises they can take them to the cleaners because of Martinez, then a disaster initial showing ends up with the desperate deal for Casemiro.

    Winter 2023 - After spending all his 200m budgets, ETH starts crying about the lack of funds for January and even then they get him Sabitzer (and Weghorst) on loan.

    In the entire season, they only sell about 5-10m TOTAL worth of talent so net spend is around 200m

    Summer 2023 - Starts by paying 60m for Mount who's had an injury prone season and plays most naturally in a position filled by arguably their best player. Pays 50m to land a keeper available for free the season before and in a year of a considerable number of GK purchases in the PL, proceeds to land probably the worst one in terms of value. Pay approx 15-20m in wages and fees to get amrabat for the season. Only decent signing is Hojlund.

    Winter 2024 - Starts complaining about money again after spending another 170 odd million in the summer.

    This is why I swore they'd beat us at Old Trafford. Ten Hag is a wondrous being. If they hold this lead he'll have half-humiliated Ratcliffe and probably done more than the next Frankenstein's hunchback to dare to take the job will over the next season. He's a moron, but he's somehow a golden electric moron. What a glorious contradiction his whole tenure would be if he were sacked on the eve of an unlikely FA Cup victory. Or perhaps ... this is just the prelude to their latest extraordinary collapse?

    United's directness always troubles Pep. We don't have runners like them to play this direct.

    We may laugh at him but in half the time has won more trophies than Arteta.

    Utd also better season than us (on paper).

      Lukazan

      A trophy > no trophy. Simples.

      In reality I disagree but purely on paper then they had a better season. Get killed about this on the WhatsApp forums.

        Sicario2 - Tier 1 so you'd rather be a United fan right now? I sure wouldn't. This is the plaster that covers up the fact they need major surgery.

        Need to mute those WhatsApp groups if they bother you so much. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          Don Pacifico

          Mate of course we had a better season but they have bragging rights.

          Football at this level is ultimately decided in trophies. In 2012 we had a better league season than Chelsea by far but they won the CL (obviously CL bigger than FA cup) but they had the last laugh.

          Imagine if Spurs win a trophy before us. We would be laughing stock. Need to win next year.

            Sicario2 - Tier 1 what do you mean 'before' us? We won an FA Cup four years ago, so how far do we go back (rhetorical question if that wasn't apparent)?

            If any United fan tried to claim they had bragging rights, I think I'd find it very easy to shut that chat down.

            Bottom line - yes, we need to win trophies some time soon but if you're feeling insecure because United have won the cup today, then I don't think you're looking at the bigger picture/need to have more pride in what we've achieved & where we're headed. An FA Cup or not doesn't really change that.

            We won four FA Cups from 2014-2020 โ€“ do we look back at that time as a glorious period, a proud trophy-winning era? No, that's our worst stretch since Arsene arrived in 1996.

            Congrats to United, a trophy is a trophy but we have many FA Cups that don't compare to the league.

            The path that Arteta is on, I am convinced can get us the bigger trophies. Wenger wouldn't have ever paid up for Rice.