1. When running at players with the ball, Messi has no peer. Brilliant player.

  2. Barcelona have really pissed me off in these games with their playacting. Madrid have been able supporting actors, but Barcelona players should be ashamed of themselves for playing up fouls and surrounding the referee.

  3. I like Mourinho, but to go down with all of Higuain, Benzema and Kaka all on the bench while your teams fails to create a consistent and credible attacking threat is unfortunate. Real would have benefited from having more players who could control the game on offense, rather than depending on two holding midfielders and a deep-lying playmaker.

Agree with Mourinho's comments to a fair extent. The achievements of this Barca side are being thrown into question by this string of flaky decisions.

Barca and Madrid are no better than each other when it comes to gamesmanship but it's Barcelona who get the calls.

Also, I fucking hate Alves. He's a blight on the game.

Tbf, the ref in that Chelsea game 2 years ago was definitely bought. No question about it.

I hate Alves as well. Horrible man. Lots of players dive and cheat but he really makes an effort to go that extra mile.

I don't mind players trying to influence the referee by shouting in face. Chelsea do it, Barcelona do it, Ferguson does and, frankly, I wish we did it as well because I think it works. What irritates me is that Barcelona then try and take the moral high ground.

Messi is unreal.

I find watching Alves' scamming really upsetting actually. Loathsome individual, but definitely a very talented player as well.

Barcelona not only try to take the moral high ground, a compliant media has (to this point) happily given it to them. Here's hoping that storyline will change.

otfgoon wrote:

Tuesday 10 August 2010. Steve Gerrard: "anything Messi can do, Joe Cole can do as well, if not better."

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Capello, 2011: "Gareth Bale is today the number one player in the world."

😐

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Good ol' Capello, always good for a laugh.

Alves is always at it but for me, it was Pedro who took the absolute piss last night.

Yeah Pedro's antics that resulted in Arbeloa getting a yellow card were deplorable.
He charged straight into him and then collapsed in a heap clutching his face.
Pathetic.

Why did we lose to these bunch of cheating cunts. Best team in the world yet still feel they need to cheat. Pathetic.

Real were not much better though. Let's not forget they played a centre back in midfield for the sole purpose of kicking Messi.

Both teams summed up the ugly sides of football. Barca - diving and cheating, Real - ruining the game as a spectacle.

But if you play with all of your men behind the ball and fast strikers who can score goals, you always win.

I only watched about ten minutes, probably from about the 70th minute roughly, and that was enough to see that I should have stuck to my guns and avoided it. With all the talk of playacting I'm surprised Puyol hasn't been mentioned. There was one incident where Adebayor was closing him down on the touchline and Adebayor's arm was his chest, Puyol clutched his face as if he'd been punched and looked at the linesman in disbelief that nothing was given. Cheating, game ruining, pussy, whinging, nancy, flouncing bastards the lot of them.

Man marking and kicking isn't the same thing, Gurgen.

About ruining the game as a spectacle, well, personally I find Barcelona's defenders passing the ball around for 30 minutes no less irritating than a team that packs ten players in front of the penalty area. Not to mention that Madrid was, like us at Camp Nou, really starting to come out of their shell(dominating even), before the sending off. So it wasn't like they were parking the bus or anything.

Imagine if we had players like Real have at disposal and use them properly to play our kind of footie. 😮

Would thrash Barca easily last night

Can't imagine that we'd play Barca in a CL SF and leave both Kaka and Benzema on the bench for 90 minutes.

Clrnc wrote:

Imagine if we had players like Real have at disposal and use them properly to play our kind of footie. 😮

Would thrash Barca easily last night

Another way of looking at that is imagine if Wenger was Madrid manager. Holy shit they'd be frightening. If Arsenal fans get their wish it might happen.

Captain wrote:

Alves is always at it but for me, it was Pedro who took the absolute piss last night.

Busquets ran him close when he held his face after getting touched in the chest. Made my blood boil.

Ricky1985 wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Imagine if we had players like Real have at disposal and use them properly to play our kind of footie. 😮

Would thrash Barca easily last night

Another way of looking at that is imagine if Wenger was Madrid manager. Holy shit they'd be frightening. If Arsenal fans get their wish it might happen.

Wenger as Madrid manager would be such a hilarious clusterfuck, sure he might win a trophy or two but the melodrama in Spain would be off the scale!

est wrote:

Man marking and kicking isn't the same thing, Gurgen.

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Yes Pepe was very controlled in his challenges.

Either way, that tactic is one of the most pathetic things a football manager can do. Especially when he has three world class attacking players on the bench.

Pepe is a brute and an ugly cunt. I doubt he was sent out to kick Messi though. You don't get away with shit like that against Barcelona.

What good are attacking players, if you don't have the ball?

I'm sure everyone would have loved if Real had came out and started attacking right from the kick-off. An open game is always much more interesting to watch. But the problem with playing an open game against Barcelona, is that they have Messi. He can single handedly destroy even the best of defences, if he's allowed to pick up the ball and start running at defenders.

Despite the hype of Xavi, Pedro, Villa et al. Barcelona would not be half the force without Messi.

We attacked them and beat them at home est. Fair and square without any dirty tactics.

Gurgen wrote:

We attacked them and beat them at home est. Fair and square without any dirty tactics.

Tbh iI think we're the only team who managed to win in an open game aganst bartha.

It was a great performance by us.

Nevertheless, we didn't exactly play our usual football. Our midfield(especially Cesc) fell further back than usually and Messi was very closely guarded. Most of our chances came on the counter-attack, instead of our usual short passing build up. In that sense, we didn't play any different than Madrid did. In fact, as a cunt(Barcelona fan) one could even claim Song tried to kick Messi.

And it all didn't matter because in the return leg Robin was sent off for nothing.

Thinking about that I feel quite strongly where Mourinho's coming from. Yes Jose's an arrogant hypocrite, but all this bullshit needs to stop at some point surely?

Burnwinter wrote:
Ricky1985 wrote:

Another way of looking at that is imagine if Wenger was Madrid manager. Holy shit they'd be frightening. If Arsenal fans get their wish it might happen.

Wenger as Madrid manager would be such a hilarious clusterfuck, sure he might win a trophy or two but the melodrama in Spain would be off the scale!

With Ronaldo, Kaka, Ozil, Di Maria, Benzema, Higuain, Alonso, Cavalho, Pepe, Ramos, Casillas - he'd do great things.

If UEFA had any sense, they would toss the book at Alves. For a man to roll around like he's been assaulted by Jason and Freddie Krueger in order to get his opponent sent off, and then be seen in a dead sprint 3 minutes later; that's appalling. He needs to miss the next game. UEFA also needs to do something about Barca intimidating the referee. Again, suspensions or citations should be handed out after the game. The only redeeming thing about this boring team is Messi. He's brilliant. I'm sick of their playacting, harrassing the referee, and tippy-tappy football. I just want to kick Xavi in his Crash Bandicoot face.

😆 Pedro's dive really was something special.

Following on from one of the comments in that video -

Caligula wrote:

If UEFA had any sense, they would toss the book at Alves. For a man to roll around like he's been assaulted by Jason and Freddie Krueger in order to get his opponent sent off, and then be seen in a dead sprint 3 minutes later; that's appalling. He needs to miss the next game. UEFA also needs to do something about Barca intimidating the referee. Again, suspensions or citations should be handed out after the game. The only redeeming thing about this boring team is Messi. He's brilliant. I'm sick of their playacting, harrassing the referee, and tippy-tappy football. I just want to kick Xavi in his Crash Bandicoot face.

Let's not forget that it was a ridiculous challenge by Pepe.

The challenge was at most a yellow card. I would have let it go. Watching General Mirth's video, Alves is seen clutching his shin, but he wasn't even touched by Pepe. It's abominable play acting. Sickening stuff. This season is coming to an ignominious end for the Arsenal and general football fan. Fuck this shit.

Over the ball, half way up the shin is a red every time.

Despite Alves' disgusting playacting, it was a red card all day long.

Caligula wrote:

The challenge was at most a yellow card. I would have let it go. Watching General Mirth's video, Alves is seen clutching his shin, but he wasn't even touched by Pepe. It's abominable play acting. Sickening stuff. This season is coming to an ignominious end for the Arsenal and general football fan. Fuck this shit.

Pretty much sums it all up nicely.

It's a yellow for me.

Yep, thought it was a red card aswell, the rvp red card however was bullshit tbh, but anyways real madrid should've recieved more red cards in that game.

y va marquer wrote:

Yeah Pedro's antics that resulted in Arbeloa getting a yellow card were deplorable.
He charged straight into him and then collapsed in a heap clutching his face.
Pathetic.

Can´t stand Arbeloa tbh. He always does a lot of stupid stuff off the ball, yesterday no exception.

It was a reckless challenge by Pepe, but since he actually hit the ball, and never touched Cuntves, it certainly wasn´t OVER the ball. A yellow card for sure, but that is it.

The ref decided the outcome of the tie right then anf there.