🏆 Porto vs Arsenal, Estadio do Dragão Wednesday 21 February, 20:00 GMT: Page 13 - The Arsenal discussion community: One More in the Tolly

🏆 Porto vs Arsenal, Estadio do Dragão Wednesday 21 February, 20:00 GMT

goon

If you’re lacking space it means there’s space elsewhere to be exploited. You just have to be braver, quicker and technically on point.

swider

I really dislike this super safe control over creating goal scoring chances approach. Yet again it backfired, just like in multiple games at the beginning of this season and in many cup games under Arteta.

naz

What bothers me is that we'll start this same team on the weekend against Newcastle and wonder why they're tired and can't create chances. No subs, no resting and nothing to show for it. We better come out fighting

invisibleman18

Arteta has never won a home European knockout tie unless I'm mistaken. 2-0 is going to be a mountainous task.

TambourineMan

That was a bit of a humbler today and a reminder that this team is far from the finished article. We didn't deserve anything from that and should have lost by more.

What's important now is that we don't let this derail our season, need to come back strong against Newcastle and not think about the 2nd leg until the time actually comes. Forget about the CL for awhile and get back in groove.

Meatwad

arteta is in trouble if his coaching career ever takes him to the portuguese league.

Burnwinter

HomeSteak So why would he do it here?

Because he can't stay fit so he's bound to be coming to terms with his limitations. Squaddie at Arsenal's not bad if you're only ever fit for six weeks at a time.

Segway

Meatwad Pretty incredible how nervous they all were considering the run they were on. They were fucking up the simplest of things.

When all is said and done however, we should have scored at least one. Saliba and Kai had very good chances with headers from corners, Trossard's volley where he was totally clear and Gabriel had a very good chance in the 89th minute from a Rice freekick. Symptomatic of the whole performance really.

lorddulaarsenal

Might need to play our Thomas Partey one match a season wildcard in the next leg. He’d help open them up

Clrnc

They talked a lot of shit before the match, Diogo Costa and co.

Now after the match Conceicao talked shit again

Time to do them 1 month later

This was basically their tactic throughout the match. Basically fell into their trap again.

Didn't even trouble 41 year old Pepe

Gurgen

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert Spot on. It's a very upsetting result for me because it shows how immature we are. Very little street smarts in this team. All game we have no shots and no-one on the pitch stands up and says let's change some things. No, we just keep barging into the keeper on set pieces like in England. This team also feel very overcoached, cannot think on its feet.

Burnwinter

Gurgen This team also feel very overcoached, cannot think on its feet.

Maybe, I mean we scored 20+ goals across five league matches prior to this so I guess someone's thinking alright.

I'm not surprised or worried by the result. Young team with minimal European experience, club returning to the top competition after a long furlough. It was heavier going in the 90s under Wenger.

I suspect we will beat them over the two legs, but even if we don't it's a sign we need to learn a few lessons.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Gurgen exceptionally disappointing wasn't it? Still a complete banter team in Europe, even with a manager who's regarded as tactically highly gifted.

We were completely strangled out of our game and some of our less technical players (Martinelli, Kiwior) showed their limitations.

HomeSteak

we will fuck them up in the second leg. 4-0

QuincyAbeyie

Burnwinter I suspect we will beat them over the two legs, but even if we don't it's a sign we need to learn a few lessons.

This goes for anything we'll fail to accomplish, but it's not much of a consolation.

Gazza M

Burnwinter I agree with this. I hoped we'd show some more street smarts, but for all its talent we have a predominantly green squad at this level. not surprised it was a bit of a shakedown, just mildly disappointed. the much vaunted invincible generation suffered more than one similar mugging in the CL. if we batter them at home this match will be forgotten

awooga83

I think the goals and results of the last few matches also could be some outliers themselves as I don't think we've necessarily had to face the some of the challenges that have caused us problems. I do think that Arteta still has shown that inability or unwillingness to change things in game when they haven't exactly worked.

Essentially these kinds of results are why I'm not there yet and thinking this team can win the big trophies we have to show we can get results from these games because that's what it'll take and until we do there will be questions about the team and Arteta.

Burnwinter

awooga83 I think the goals and results of the last few matches also could be some outliers themselves

Surely everyone does, as the alternative is imagining we're going to score an average 4+ goals a match forever …

QuincyAbeyie This goes for anything we'll fail to accomplish

You don't learn useful lessons from every failure. No one thinks we learnt, or thought we'd learn much from the 2006 final.

However, getting through despite a 1–0 away first leg pretty much defines the Champions League experience. The fitful performance is disappointing but ya know, let's see what happens at the Emirates.

QuincyAbeyie

Burnwinter You don't learn useful lessons from every failure. No one thinks we learnt, or thought we'd learn much from the 2006 final.

However, getting through despite a 1–0 away first leg pretty much defines the Champions League experience. The fitful performance is disappointing but ya know, let's see what happens at the Emirates.

I'm solely replying to the "even if we don't" part. I don't we we'd learn anything new we haven't learned in pretty much every knockout match we've played under Arteta since the FA Cup win in his first half season.

Qwiss

QuincyAbeyie we made the same mistakes we did in the Europa league last season so I'm not sure we've learnt much either.

Big Willie

QuincyAbeyie I'm solely replying to the "even if we don't" part.

Probably a typo which meant to say "even if we do", it would still be a lesson for us.

Burnwinter

QuincyAbeyie I'm solely replying to the "even if we don't" part.

Ah well, please reply to whole sentences. This practice of replying to individual clauses creates the conditions for labyrinthine pettifoggery.

QuincyAbeyie

Burnwinter I don't disagree that this can be a good experience if we go through, I'm just not into the whole "if we go out then at least we learned something" thing. 🙂

Big Willie

Burnwinter labyrinthine pettifoggery

😂

Can't lie, have to google a some of the shit you type to make sure you aren't fucking with us and making up words.

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