Qwiss okay, i follow this, but the problem is that if dems are a 3/10 on the sympathy scale for palestinians/muslims, republicans are a -10 out of 10. trump will make the crisis in the middle east 10 times worse. he loves netanyahu and will let him do whatever he wants. most congressional republicans are in lock step with trump on israel, them accumulating more power is not going to help gaza or the palestinians at all

there is a pretty big gap between how biden feels about israel/palestine and how harris feels, imo. from what ive read, shes been pushing behind the scenes to try and get biden to move faster and push harder on israel and get the cease fire agreed to. some of that is opportunism because it will help her campaign, no doubt, but biden is a lot closer to the right on israel than most of the democratic party

      mdgoonah41

      You can bet that Netanyahu will be praying Trump and the Republicans get in, and that tells you all you need to know.

      Biden has been awful on this issue, incredibly weak, and I could semi-understand if someone felt like a protest vote was necessary. Harris at least offers some hope of taking a tougher stance just by being someone different. Unfortunately that’s all we have right now, and Palestinians don’t really have the luxury of waiting 5+ years to see what impact (likely nothing positive), a protest vote will have on their fortunes.

        Trump doesn't like Netanyahu personally. Thats well documented but he'll still give Israel his full throated support. Just like Biden does now, apparently also dislikes Bibi. And Kamala will be the exact same as genocide Joe.

        no US president likes him because he constantly throws it in their face that all he has to do is make a call to AIPAC and both sides of congress will be voting unanimously to condemn you.

        mdgoonah41
        This man is worth billions, yet here we are. His greed innovation knows no bounds.

          i think trump's wealth is mostly a ponzi scheme. the trump family is basically the bluths from arrested development

          I love it how Trump always says "people are calling it...." when we all know that "people" just means him and his closest lickspittles

          Real billionaires don’t spend their time selling stuff like this. He’s like all those guys on YouTube selling millionaire seminars.

          Claudius On that note, I was at a Massive Attack gig on Sunday night. One of the features of their live show for the last 20 years is to give you information you wouldn't necessarily get from the mainstream media (who are too busy telling you about Katie Price latest indiscretion, or whatever).

          During Safe From Harm they flashed up a stat -a $ figure of US aid to Israel since 1948. I think it got to something like 90 million and the figure became so overwhelming it was hard to keep track of so I looked away for a second or two. I went back to it seconds later and it kept running and running and running... I couldn't even comprehend what the the total was by the time the counter stopped but, having had a look online, it's around 318 billion dollars.

          That's an insane amount of money given to a a country who have been terrorising Palestinians for, well, forever now.

              RocktheCasbah I’m still so proud of South Africa for standing up against these criminals at the ICC. I just wish a few more powerful countries were similarly against them.

                8 days later

                deprogramming this Cult might take a generation

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                  HomeSteak amazing, yet unsurprising. they're all scampering now. I reckon that rabbit hole goes deep. republicans, fox news anchors, elon musk etc. kompromat on smash

                      Gazza M Funny how they are all pro trump ha? lol When things will come out, as much as they can....people will be shocked just how deep it goes.
                      That loser with the hat on all the time, Tim got 400.000k per month to post "civil war" every 2 minutes.

                        That little shit's done media work on both sides of the Ukraine war hasn't he?

                        No way on earth a man gets paid $400k per month with a gentle hint or two to keep pushing the propaganda he's fed without knowing what he's doing, all the more so if the company's run out of Tennessee by people called Kostiantyn Kalashnikov and Elena Afanasyeva.

                        a famous trump nuthugger/neo nazi scamfluencer who's only just realising he's been duped by the ultimate scammer

                        6 days later

                        That was a well contested and orchestrated debate.

                        I was surprised at Trump’s coherence as he’s been a mess at recent speaking engagements. While I don’t agree with him, I did think he was clear and relatively concise (for him).

                        Kamala got so much right, but also left me deflated on a few moments where she could have added details to add weight to what she was saying.

                        In particular:

                        • she should have name dropped her guns (when saying she was a gun owner)

                        • mentioned the impact on OGBYns (moving/closing) and maternal fatality rates when talking about abortion laws

                        • and I think she should have explicitly called out the country being tired of 75 year old presidents (instead of mentioning a new generation of leaders).