GooneriC 100% right, she has every right to be angry. the most depressing thing right now about democratic politics is how willing they are to be swayed and outright gaslighted by the right.
i read an article yesterday about how some right wing strategists were feeding opposition research on shapiro to the media and more left wing liberals to try and tarnish him and create opposition to him, because republicans were afraid of him on the ticket. whether that is true or not, i dont know. and shapiro obviously has his issues and potential liabilies, as noted in this thread.
but the bigger issue is that the democratic party has allowed itself to be influenced and swayed by republicans over the last 8 years. republicans closer to the political center were rightly disgusted by trump and felt the party no longer was welcoming to them, so they wanted to coopt the democratic party and turn it into their idealized version of the republican party. thats not how any of this is supposed to work. you dont show up to someone's house for a dinner party and start changing the music and then go into the kitchen and tell the hosts they are cooking everything wrong. if you do that, the host would be justified in ejecting you from the party.
never trumpers either need to create their own viable third party (will never happen) or they need to figure out whether their views more closely align with democrats or republicans and then vote that way. they dont get to change the democratic platform or completely water down views on repro rights, immigration and the environment. if these never trumpers had it their way, dems would have nominated liz cheany and mitt romney for the ticket. that isnt a world i want to live in.
JazzG hard disagree here. the dem base is definitely more excited about harris. i think most people agree she isn't the dream candidate. but dems also cant fall into the trap of letting perfect be the enemy of good. shes a better candidate than biden, shes more progressive than biden. shes still a cop, and she'll never win over certain people, but shes far from some disaster candidate. if she'd fucked up the VP selection, i think the momentum train could have derailed, but she picked the guy that has drawn plaudits from AOC and progressive groups, all the way to joe fucking manchin and republicans like larry hogan. this is as united as the dem party has been since probably 2008, to be honest.
