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An audience with Eddie Nketiah - Sunday 4:30pm GMT London

lorddulaarsenal

Just get Toney. Has presence and is a genuine goal threat.

Get a new left winger too.

KingslandBarge

Eddie is not half an athlete. His goals, penalties won are a function of movement, hold-up just as much about finishing. Just bemused with the narrative so i'll call it in.

lorddulaarsenal

KingslandBarge are you appreciating the moves he doesn’t make?

Clrnc

Don Pacifico oh then you keep your powder dry for the next window. Don't need to spend unnecessarily and compromise your plans and funds. I'm not talking solely just this season and our goalies but there are many buys that shouldn't have been a priority over the others and we did all of them.

Don Pacifico

Clrnc fair. Havertz was a gamble (one I think that could still pay off) and Raya was a fucking pointless signing (until proven otherwise) but I think most other players have been valuable additions to the squad or at least opportunistic signings worth gambling on.

I dunno, I just don't think we've really missed out on 'that' striker from investing elsewhere.

Big Willie

lorddulaarsenal are you appreciating the moves he doesn’t make?

Never keep them guessing your next move 😂

Don Pacifico

Clrnc if any Liverpool fan came away from today thinking we are shite, I think they're naive at best. We dominated them for the majority of the game. Yes, we're in the results business but if we play like we did today, I don't think we're far off being a team that will punish the best teams in the world.

Qwiss

RocktheCasbah everything good that Havertz did in that first half Toney can do. Last season for instance he won the most aerial duels in the league. He has good link play, can hold it up but he's also pretty quick and a good finished. He seems to be the best realistic option right now.

We'll probably sign another Kiwior level defender in this window though.

RocktheCasbah

Qwiss I just can't see how Arsenal get him out of Brentford this window. Especially given the Raya loan situation. Brentford's recruitment is usually great, but selling Toney could relegate them.

lorddulaarsenal

Adebayo would bang in this team

Qwiss

RocktheCasbah that seems to happen every time we concede. I spend 15 minutes shouting for substitutions as its become obvious we've lost control due to running out of steam, eventually the obvious pressure tells and then Arteta makes his subs and I scream at him for being reactive instead of pro-active.

Coombs

Clrnc I think he'd rather do it by rotating his starting 11 more. Instead, he's ended up desperately trying to play Saka and Marti into form, overusing Rice due to Partey's injury, and playing the only back line that is fit. I wish he'd compromise more on that front, but I can see why he doesn't. It's an unfortunate streak of idealist stubbornness.

flobaba

Claudius our underlying metrics in them are alright though 🙂

Claudius

flobaba you’re not remotely funny

Qwiss

RocktheCasbah I don't think they'd be relegated without him. Too many worse teams. Wissa is a decent striker too, if they sold us Toney they could re-invest. Maybe we could even throw in some make weights or a load to help them out. Our send them back Raya.

In reality I think it'd depend on how much Toney would push. And I think he'd push a lot.

Gunner89

RocktheCasbah

Give them eddie

Clrnc

Don Pacifico When we want someone we will do whatever it takes to get him. Like Rice, like even Mudryk or Caicedo trying to go over the odds.

We haven't even tried properly to get any strikers in but instead keep trusting Nketiah. And you can tell Arteta trusts him. When he doesn't trust someone the fella gets almost zilch game time

daredevil

Don Pacifico

Chelsea bought Jackson and United bought Hojlund. We're back in the Giroud era of there not being an abundance of quality CF's that we are missing out on. You can shout all you want about a CF, and we sure need one, but there aren't any obvious options around.

I'd sign Toney if only to freshen things up, but he is not a long term solution. Where is today's Eduardo?

RocktheCasbah

Qwiss yeah, maybe you're right - but I just think for Brentford, it would be a hell of a(n unnecessary) risk at a time when they've been coming down the table like an avalanche.

Don Pacifico

Clrnc When we want someone we will do whatever it takes to get him. Like Rice, like even Mudryk or Caicedo trying to go over the odds.

...and Vlahovic (and Jesus).

Coombs

@Clrnc just to comment on the academy thing: Klopp made a more straightforward calculation, I think. He thought, fuck a replay, I'd rather just lose 1-nil. Worst case, we're out of the cup and can focus on other campaigns, best case, the kids get a great moment to celebrate.

I also suspect that Arsenal as an organization have developed a bit of a complex around youth players' exposure. From Mertesacker's philosophy to Saka's treatment after the Euros, my bet is that they are a overthinking the potential negative effects of putting young players in the spotlight.

Clrnc

Coombs I don't think I agree with this. That has always been Klopp style even back in Dortmund days. He has a great track record of bringing and nurturing players. He walks to talk and is willing to put trust in his youths instead of endless spendings.

We have also seen managers like Pep, Poch (see his Chelsea team yesterday he rather blood young players than give game time to useless fringe), Ange etc all giving plenty of debuts and game time even in difficult matches.

Arteta has never changed in this aspect. From the Willian days to now, unless his hands are forced he don't like to put trust into any academy players but rather prefer experienced fringe players if push come to shove. Plenty of evidence for that even in dead rubber Europa group games

RocktheCasbah

Gunner89 I'll bloody well drive him there!

(I don't drive).

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