I'm guessing White will train like mad in response to pressure on his place in the XI ... in the ideal case his form will improve and he'll also be less fatigued.

Burnwinter I think this level of competition is great for players like White and I hope a few others across the back line. Its how it should be, raise your game or get replaced.

Qwiss Yep. Most players' level is going to drop off unconsciously if there's not enough pressure behind them for selection. Felt we saw it from Jesus, Saka and Xhaka as well in the back half of last season.

This is a nice compilation. It seems like he's a right sided Zinchenko that can defend. I just became much more excited about this signing!

What do you reckon, is Arteta going to rotate Zinchenko and White with Tierney and Timber, or is he going full madness with both Timber and Zinchenko playing together?

Its very hard to tell because I just can't see him benching White regularly, he's been too solid since the move to RB. I'm hoping Arteta is set to rotate a lot this season in the FB spots with Timber/Tierney and White/Zinchenko offering balance depending on which side Arteta wants to leave exposed.

est I think someone posted his defensive stats here and he is worse then Zinchenko in that regard (who is bad). But stats...we shall see how he does.

Nah, I don't care much about stats. You couldn't make that kind of compilation out of Zinch'es defensive contributions. Physicality and tackling look different class. We'll see about interceptions and reading of the game, but I've seen him described as an intelligent player, so I'm hopeful.

HomeSteak I have re-analysed more of his defensive stats, I think its apparent he is weak in the air but the rest of his defensive game is fine.

Clrnc yep. He's especially good in the tackle. Needs to get up to speed aerially.

lorddulaarsenal Looks a real competitor

Defensively he gives me the complete opposite feeling of what I was mesmerised by when I first watched Saliba videos as we were about to sign him. Saliba was calm defensively, never too far ot too close to his man, when it came time to win the ball he would just manage to find a way to outpower the attacker and get his body between the ball and man and come away with the ball without even making a tackle.

I haven't seen a lot of Timber defensively (his other videos focus on his on the ball play) and I've only watched the first minute of this video (will watch the rest when i get home) Timber seems very aggressive, slides quite frequently and is always putting his foot in, very Ligue 1 Gabrielesque and I was quite wrong about worrying about his potential rashness and possibly getting sent off.

Don't know why he's a CB in the first place but his style looks similar to White when he first joined, very front foot stuff and can get done because of that. Not sure him+Gabi would be a good combo if Saliba sits out.

Big Willie yes aggressive front foot defending is often a worry. By many accounts it sounds like Timber can occasionally get caught out, but it appears to me he’s successful with it as he reads the intention of the attacker and anticipates where they’ll move to and how they’ll manipulate the ball. It’s more considered than someone who dives in with a hint of desperation (ala Mustafi say)

banduan Reminds me of Koscielny a bit. Very aggressive in getting his foot to the ball early.

est He gives away alot of fouls. I suspect he will take awhile to adapt to the league. Need to strengthen up but the ingredients are there to be world class for him. Like Stones

Clrnc Stats can be helpful but I don't think they can give you a feel for a player. We'll just need to see how he settles into a new team and a new league.

I think it was Nelson Mandela that said "Stats are all very well and good until you get punched in the mouth."

No, that was Mother Teresa

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