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Declan "Deccers" Rice

Gunner89

I'd like partey and rice at the etihad to outmuscle those city cunts

Qwiss

QuincyAbeyie Rice has a better engine and gets around more, Partey is the more incisive passer and we have missed his balls from deep to Ode, Saka and Martinelli. I'd go Rice 8 if we're picking, more goal threat too.

Pepe LeFrits

JazzG True and in big games we'd probably want those two in the middle. But I'm not entirely sure the No.8 is his best position, you can see with his insane interception skills that he's better deeper.

It's definitely not, but I'd understand him going with the pairing against a counter attacking side like United or against City who always kill us in transition

Clrnc

QuincyAbeyie Rice could carry the ball in advanced areas though. His biggest strength. In fact even as a 6 he carried possession forward many times yesterday

QuincyAbeyie

Clrnc true, but on the other hand, Partey could play those passes of his while knowing that Rice was behind him, covering.

No matter who would play what, they should be dynamic about it. Partey covering if Rice is carrying the ball forward etc.

Doc

Don't think we will see as much ball carrying with him just because of the way we play but it's a good weapon to have in his locker

What I'm most excited about his is how far he can progress. He has played in some really shit teams... Looks like a really quick learner though, once he comes on more tactically with Arteta guiding him, could become massively more dominant which is a scary thought.

Clrnc

Rice nominated for fifa poty. Surprised its over Saka for example, or Odegaard.

Arteta misses out on nomination over Ange, Ramsdale not nominated for goalie as well.

Claudius

Clrnc every one of those players except Brozović won a trophy last year. We need to win things for our players to be recognised.

That said, I’m confused by Alvarezsnd Brozović

QuincyAbeyie

I don't think anyone would think league placements that send us to the Conference league is better than what we're doing, even if it's a trophy. It's like winning the Championship.

Saka and Ødegaard are much more deserving.

Claudius

QuincyAbeyie look through the history of Arsenal. We’ve always dealt with this crap. Our players never featured in these final lists when we were at our greatest because at the time the English league was perceived to be inferior to Italy and Spain, plus we weren’t winning the champions league. Vieira and Henry deserved more top ten and podium finishes. You need to win for people to be recognised.

Qwiss

These things are all narrative based. Rice is nominated for leading West Ham to a European trophy, even if its a shit one. They also need to big up the conference league and give someone from it recognition so he's the obvious choice. Plus he played well in the WC for England and he moved to a big club for £100m.

If we get to the CL final you'll see Saka and Odegaard make the list.

QuincyAbeyie

Qwiss Definitely. If we somehow dropped down this season and won the Conference League next season our players wouldn't be praised for it though, because better is expected from us.

Qwiss

QuincyAbeyie yeah and rightly so. If we dropped into the conference places there should be a reckoning!

lorddulaarsenal

Love Rice so much. Pillar.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Wasn’t his best game this season for us (gave the ball away twice which could have been costly) but still 7.5/10.

naz

I think we should give George the game on Wednesday. Rice will probably run himself into the ground if he starts 3 games in a week

Claudius

naz if anyone is capable of high minutes, it’s Rice. Rest him for Carabao cup.

JazzG

naz Partey should be back in a few weeks. Rice should be fine to play all the PL + CL games while he is out. Last two seasons he has played 50 games per season for West Ham and when you factor in International probably closer to 60 games per season so he's built for this, unlike Partey!

Also we can see with every game Rice is improving, I think he needs as many minutes as possible to strengthen his connection with the team. You could see against Everton his passing is getting a lot more crisp and better as well.

Sicario2 - Tier 1

Still have to remember PSV is a CL game and not a EL one. Yes we should make changes but not too many. Important to start the group with a win.

lorddulaarsenal

Really love the way Rice strokes the ball. He’s silly good. Just feels like he can physically dominate any midfield

Claudius

lorddulaarsenal add the recovery runs to that. He’s the best bloodhound we’ve had in midfield for ages.

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