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Jorginho

Sicario2 - Tier 1

He often gives the ball away even when he is in his absolute peak performance.

lorddulaarsenal

Partey looked stiff and unfit yesterday

daredevil

I keep thinking this guy can have a Pirlo at Juve-like renaissance here. Put all the legs and running power around him, and just let him dictate the play and the game. He could be massive in the CL for us.

Doc

daredevil

I hope you are right as dont see many players around that can come in a do what he does straight away.. it asks a lot more of Rice than if partnered with a more mobile DM but that is kind of Rice's thing. Still need an understudy who will need to make a significant contribution next season if Partey is sold.. maybe that's Lokonga

Clrnc

Just realised Jorg is just 32. For some reason thought he was 35. Definitely could continue to play for us in the next few years.

Also he is Brazilian but has never played for any Brazilian club. His first youth team was already in Italy.

Claudius

Clrnc if you want to like him even more, watch this interview he did with his mother. I think it might have been around the last euros. They chat about growing up, and how she recognised his talent, sent him to the beach to train. Just wonderful.

Panda

Are we extending his contract? Think we need him for another year if Partey goes. Can't see us replacing them both in 1 summer.

flobaba

Really impressive, this cat in recent months:

1) He has cut out those painful and costly defensive errors

2) His experience and maturity is a really great attribute to have in the squad, specifically in the midfield.

3) Availability. Seems to be robust enough and able to stay fit enough to play week in and week out. That's gold at this stage of the season. Fingers crossed it stays that way.

Wonder how we will line up vs Bayern? Him or Partey? And wonder how we'll use Partey during the run in.

Qwiss

Goes to show how important having the right combination of players is too. Jorginho + Xhaka, not great, Jorginho + Rice, spot on. We need a Jorginho esque player to come in if want to add another mid.

Clrnc

New 2 year deal? Elneny certainly will leave. If Partey stays too do we have space for a new CM?

HomeSteak

Clrnc Partey will leave.

Gazza M

Clrnc pretty ok with that. as long as he isn't asked to play more than he did this season, he's a useful veteran presence in the squad

Sicario2 - Tier 1

HomeSteak

Depending on how he finishes the season I think there is a chance he could stay an extra season.

Don Pacifico

Great news - one of our more underrated signings of the past few years.

CPM

I'm happy Jorginho is staying, largely because he seems like a good veteran presence. In terms of usefulness for the squad he works as the fifth midfielder on the 'depth chart', he's good for spells here and there but not much more than that.

IMO we need two other midfielders to complement Rice and Ødegaard: a pivot to replace Partey, someone like Zubimendi, and another 8 who can either play with Rice and Ødegaard or spell Ødegaard, whom we are dangerously reliant on at the moment. Havertz may have been seen as that latter player, but it turns out he's our starting center forward instead.

Clrnc

Sicario2 - Tier 1 similar thoughts. Partey still proved himself to be quite a high level mid when fit and if there's no big offers coming in we are better off keeping him.

The balance in midfield with him and Rice is very good.

I'm intrigued with what do we do with Sambi. He has looked great for Luton but as history shown normally we don't give players that Arteta banished another chance.

awooga83

Clrnc the problem is we've seen enough to suggest he's not going to be able to keep fit and be reliable for us so we need to plan as if he's not going to be there what do we do.

RocktheCasbah

Clrnc I'm intrigued with what do we do with Sambi. He has looked great for Luton but as history shown normally we don't give players that Arteta banished another chance.

True. I don't think any of us are seriously expecting Sambi to come back, but it seems to have been an excellent loan spell and with one, maybe two of our 30somethings in midfield going, perhaps there is space opening up for him at a time he's ready to fill it. Perhaps.

Obviously, being good enough for Luton isn't quite the same as being good enough for Arsenal. Time will tell, I guess.

Claudius

Clrnc I’m a big Partey fan, when he’s fit. You can see that his quality on the ball is what we have missed in games where we can’t unlock defenses from the right wing.

That said, availability is an asset. He looked terrible ramping up after his injury, and still had to miss games as well to ensure he didn’t re-injure himself. That is such a cost to the team throughout. We’ve seen this over and over with him. Expecting different next year is lunacy. So I’d let him go and fill the spot

Clrnc

Claudius He looked terrible ramping up after his injury, and still had to miss games as well to ensure he didn’t re-injure himself.

He looked great immediately when he came on against City. The rest are pure speculation to explain why he didn't play after that.

Claudius

Clrnc is City the game where former invalid Kevin De Bruyne sped past Partey like he was standing still?

Tam

Clrnc If he was as good as you're making out, and he's fit, he would be in the team no doubt about it. So he's either not at that level, or he's not at that fitness.

He's just not cut out at the top level any more. Signs of his old sloppiness against Spurs again in the first half too being robbed of possession after dilly-dallying on the ball too long in front of the defence. We got away with it because it's Spurs but a good team would have punished sloppiness like that.

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