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Jorginho

Sicario2 - Tier 1

And some ppl don’t rate good players because they know fuck all about the game

Burnwinter

Daz Quite funny there's tangible enthusiasm for Havertz up front after yesterday. We're talking about a guy who scores every five or six hours he's on the pitch. He makes Giroud seem as prolific as Messi.

Mirth

Burnwinter it's more that Havertz is about as average a finisher as Jesus is on current form but also does a few extra bits which seem to particularly unsettle defenders. Giroud would be the best striker at the club these days.

Qwiss

Burnwinter I thought he was pretty bad yesterday. He worked hard and barged into defenders a lot but he was shocking on the ball. His first touch is awful. He missed a 1 on 1 and was lucky Saka put it right. Breaks moves down too often for my liking.

daredevil

Burnwinter

That's because for me, the end justifies the means. That's why I don't get hell bent over Jesus's profligacy. Since he joined, our attack has improved massively. I don't really care if he only scores 12 times if the attack he's spearheading scores 88.

And with Havertz yesterday, the attack just worked.

Daz

It is a bit funny isn't it. I do appreciate some of what Kai brings, but we need to be honest here, that "shot" he took that fortunately rebounded to Saka was an atrocious effort. We can't have someone with such poor finishing play regularly as our striker and expect to win the league.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

Less of the "ppl" please guys. Vomit.

goon

Daz

I don’t get how you guys say stuff like this so flippantly as if you just need to hop onto Amazon to find one. Get a free unicorn chucked in while you’re at it.

Honestly find the CF angst among Arsenal fans so tedious.

Daz

I know, wanting a striker who scores goals is so 2000s isn't it. What am I thinking.

Big Willie

Mirth Giroud

Literally the first thought that came to mind when BW mentioned him

RocktheCasbah

Qwiss Thought the contrast between what Havertz did when he got released down the left and what Trossard did in the same space was pretty stark - all of Trossard's touches, three big, 2 small and then the finish were perfect, Havertz on the other hand...

Gazza M

anyone think we should stick with the rice-jorgi pivot? rice does enough water carrying to protect jorgi in defensive transitions, which is the main issue with him.

if you look at the sequence of passing that led up to the first goal, it stemmed from one touch passing in our own half with jorgi at the heart of it. it reminded me of how we opened teams up last season with partey or jorgi at 6. it's what's been largely missing this season.

JazzG

Gazza M I'm not sure how fit Jorginho is and whether he is able to play every game, we might have to rotate with Kai until (or maybe I should say IF) Partey comes back.

In these big games though having Jorginho not just from a technical point of view but a tactical makes sense. Even when he is a sub he is constantly shouting out instructions on the pitch, again yesterday he was making sure players were aware of what was required and help keep us switched on.

daredevil

Gazza M

Single biggest reason why our football changed this season. Too many half baked concocted theories about control ball, and 80 degree vertical perpendicular somersault tactics when football in a lot of ways is a very simple game.

You have a guy who can pass through the lines who will create dangerous high quality attacks vs a guy who doesn't take as many risks and prefers passing wide. Interchanging the two will have different ramifications for the type of football we see.

Gazza M

he'll have to be managed for sure. but it looks there's mileage in that partnership. I feel comfortable going to tough grounds with that partnership. makes me wistfully imagine what that rice-partey duo could've been like

banduan

Gazza M makes me wistfully imagine what that rice-partey duo could've been like

ya I'm over that now. Partey's played his last for us I'm sure.

Burnwinter

Gazza M It's making me appreciate the Zubimendi links more. As you point out, Rice puts himself about so well we don't need much more defensively.

JazzG

His contract is up in the summer as well I think, definitely think we should look to extend for another year.

Partey will probably need to leave, he just can't get himself fit and availability is the most important quality in a player. Risky losing two senior players so we need to keep one.

lorddulaarsenal

JazzG I think Zubimendi is being lined up as a Jorginho replacement skill set wise

Pepe LeFrits

Pretty sure we have an option to extend, and I expect we will. We have much more pressing issues than replacing Jorginho imo.

Qwiss

Replace Partey and Jorge is no issue really. I'd extend but one season only, any more would be too much.

daredevil

Losing Partey and Jorginho in one summer would be too much experience to let go at once. Even though the former has barely played this season, he will come back and play a role.

Gurgen

Wish we'd gotten him in his prime. Class act.

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