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⚽ Arsenal vs Newcastle, League, 3rd Jan, 7.45pm

Qwiss

Lack of subs was frustrating. Why have we signed and kept players that can't even get off the bench?

KingslandBarge

Qwiss Thought Arteta was a touch complacent with options tonight. In addition to subs, Burn vs. Saka and play down our right was severely underexploited.

est

Qwiss Yeah, I think we could have definitely done with Vieira off the bench. I can understand Arteta betting on Martinelli and Saka over Marquinhos though.

Need to get that Mudryk deal over the line ASAP.

Burnwinter

Qwiss Yeah, Vieira and Marquinhos? Or Nelson if he were there (he wasn't).

In great Arsenal style, we've ended up with a parcel of lightweight forwards who aren't up to spelling a leggy Saka, and we're short at least one elite striker who should also be over 6'. Giroud as an option probably would've got us three points today.

Not to say these guys are useless but they are not the bench options we need, they are the second stringers for when we have more fixtures.

est

Didn't we get a handball like that called for a penalty against us this season? I seem to remember a similar situation where the defender had already turned his back and the hand was slightly away from the body.

Big Willie

est double standards when it comes to Arsenal calls.

banduan

est Didn't we get a handball like that called for a penalty against us this season? I seem to remember a similar situation where the defender had already turned his back and the hand was slightly away from the body.

in fact we escaped a handball like that. Big Gabi vs Pool.

Coombs

It was an "unnatural position" by any interpretation of their idiotic rules. I hate the PGMOL more than La Migra.

est

KingslandBarge To be honest they protected Burn excellently all game long. There were times where we intentionally tried to bring all of the game to the left side and draw them in to isolate Saka on the other flank, but they didn't fall for it at all.

Coombs

est I think we could have definitely done with Vieira off the bench

For sure. Bad call not bringing him on, he's got a finishing touch that can win you a game. Can sort of understand, though. He's very lightweight still.

Pepe LeFrits

Coombs For sure. Bad call not bringing him on, he's got a finishing touch that can win you a game. Can sort of understand, though. He's very lightweight still.

I would have liked to have seen him brought on to play on the left, either in Martinelli's spot or Xhaka's. He produced a key moment there for us similarly earlier in this season (don't remember against who, but it was another difficult game).

Clrnc

Coombs Newcastle was very physical Vieira would be eaten up alive.

It's quite clear Arteta doesn't think our attacking options off the bench is any good

Claudius

KingslandBarge
Not possible. This has been worked on for a year. This is the best defensive performance we’ve faced in the Mikel era. It was a Simeone type defense were 80% of effort is dedicated to disrupting the opponent’s efforts. Two very solid banks of four that rotates with the play to prevent any on-the-ball progression. And good use of triangles to close down players. It was elite defense.

Spurs would never be able to replicate this next week. We would break it down after 10 minutes.

KingslandBarge

Claudius
lorddulaarsenal
good points! I meant more the conniving shithousery and playing not to lose. Probably need to cool off and watch the highlights later.

daredevil

Claudius

I doubt this is Howe's baby and more likely Trippier brought Simeone's manual with him.

Qwiss

Clrnc If you can't bring Vieira on in a game like this when can you? He didn't come on when we were 3 up at the weekend either. If he never plays how can he get ready for moments where we might need him?

Gazza M

nketiah, martinelli and odegaard got muzzled completely. everyone else was solid. Newcastle defended like a mid 2000s rafa/jose era team, it almost felt weird to watch given how much the epl has evolved. awful to watch, right down to the threatric synchronised 'cramp' they all suffered from at the end

love marti to bits, but we do need to freshen up there. he still picks the wrong option and takes a few touches more when the ball meeds to be moved quicker. mudryk would be a very timely addition for us

Qwiss

Gazza M thought Nketiah was good today.

KingslandBarge

Viera would have been an awful sub IMO

daredevil

KingslandBarge

Agreed, he would have been eaten alive out there.

Qwiss

daredevil It was very Atleti-esque

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