No way. It could be offside from the original shot but by the time Estupians deflects it goalwards keeper dived and is no longer having his view impeded.

Big Willie wrote:

No way. It could be offside from the original shot but by the time Estupians deflects it goalwards keeper dived and is no longer having his view impeded.

Think that’s debatable. If I was a keeper, that’s right in my line of sight.

flobaba wrote:
Big Willie wrote:

No way. It could be offside from the original shot but by the time Estupians deflects it goalwards keeper dived and is no longer having his view impeded.

Think that’s debatable. If I was a keeper, that’s right in my line of sight.

The first shot? Yeah it was and should have been offside if that was the one that went in. The keeper dived for that shot which kind of goes to your point about it being debateable as he must have seen something, though I'd have agreed it should be called offside.

The deflection though wasn't I don't think from the one angle I saw. Keeper dived to the right and was no longer having his vision blocked the player at the point of deflection.

Put it this way. Imagine the ball wasn't a shot but a low cross, and the keeper (whilst his vision was impaired by an offside player) moved to the right thinking the ball would end up there. If the ball ends up reaching the feet of someone inside who shot and it went in then that would have been that, no?

Anyways, they score again which was well deserved. probably should have scored another but a draw is decent enough against Holland. Shame about the injury to Valencia. He'll be a big miss.

Not looking like ending this record of never beating USA in competitive game at this rate. We've been really poor so far.

Turner is so dependable and commanding in the box

Turner with a good stop at the stroke of half time.

England do seem to be playing a similar style to us with Trippier coming infield quite often as an extra CM rather than on the overlap.

Big Willie wrote:

England do seem to be playing a similar style to us with Trippier coming infield quite often as an extra CM rather than on the overlap.

Trippier has been very negative. Constantly passing back to Stones, not opening his body up on the touchline.

I don’t think Trippier has come that narrow, he just has not athleticism to run the bylines.

Definitely need to change something here. USA too organised and committed to just have pacey people running at them. I always find Mount to be quite anonymous too. Maybe I'm just an idiot and hate Chelsea too much but just never been able to see it with him.

Shaw should have had a yellow for the studs in Weah's ankle. Ouch

Adams is very very good

Decent chance that football will be called soccer after today.

Henderson? Hahaha. for Bellingham.. Grealish for Sterling.

HI’m told Musahs a gunner, he’s given the US drive and energy and Bellingham did jack.

Kane is so selfish, takes so much luxury each time, sabotaging the side for a decade running.