Biggest move would be sacking our fraud of a manager but hopefully we can get 1-2 additions that will help our next one.

Discuss-

Bellerin looks to be off. But just a loan.
Daniel James was sold for28 fucking millions

Fenerbahce enquires about Elneny. We will consider selling him if the price target is met, same as Nketiah.

Bellerin deal is dead. Barca wanted 20 mil + Bellerin for Emerson, we said 10 + Bellerin. They walked away, sold to Spurs for 30(he might say no to them, I guess). This is from Gerard Moreno, solid on Barca info

Fucking hell, we’re penny pinching over Emerson, but spending lavishly on White and Ramsdale. Absolute frauds.

HomeSteak wrote:

Bellerin deal is dead. Barca wanted 20 mil + Bellerin for Emerson, we said 10 + Bellerin. They walked away, sold to Spurs for 30(he might say no to them, I guess)

If that's true its confirmed that Edu and Arteta is intentionally sabotaging our squad.

West Ham close to signing Nicola Vlasic from CSKA Moscow.

He didnt get a chance when he was at Everton as a youngster but has a stellar record in Russia.

Lets see how he does under Moyes.

West Ham are also in for Tagliafico but Ornstein reckons that they will not be able to hash out a deal by the time window closes.

Wolves are negotiating for a deadline day deal for Lille center back Sven Boatman. Rated at 25 million.

Leicester have apparently made a surprise deadline day bid for Callum Hudson Odoi.

No details on what their bid is.

Another one. You sugar high g? No details on their bid because as being reported (Sky, Football London etc.), they have only made an approach.

Clrnc wrote:
HomeSteak wrote:

Bellerin deal is dead. Barca wanted 20 mil + Bellerin for Emerson, we said 10 + Bellerin. They walked away, sold to Spurs for 30(he might say no to them, I guess)

If that's true its confirmed that Edu and Arteta is intentionally sabotaging our squad.

I don’t get stressed but following this club has me on the brink.

Good chance to move Elneny on

Get rid of him, Bellerin, and Kolasinac on top of Willian would be good work on the exit front

Ray wrote:

Fucking hell, we’re penny pinching over Emerson, but spending lavishly on White and Ramsdale. Absolute frauds.

Truth is, not you or anyone else know how those deals will turn out, so they shouldn't be used as a rod to beat the club. 

If you want to point to transfers that have fucked us, there are far more obvious examples like the much fancied and much vaunted signings of Partey, Gabriel, Saliba and even Tierney to an extent. These guys range from average to absolute busts so far.

Captain wrote:
Ray wrote:

Fucking hell, we’re penny pinching over Emerson, but spending lavishly on White and Ramsdale. Absolute frauds.

Truth is, not you or anyone else know how those deals will turn out, so they shouldn't be used as a rod to beat the club. 

If you want to point to transfers that have fucked us, there are far more obvious examples like the much fancied and much vaunted signings of Partey, Gabriel, Saliba and even Tierney to an extent. These guys range from average to absolute busts so far.

Truth is neither of those transfers in themselves have fucked us.

Not beating the club, just the two clowns in charge of transfers. There White and Ramsdale transfers are enough.

Yes for a third of what was paid for them. To then be turning down deals like Emerson over 10m or so, makes even less sense. I see ornstein is on a mission.

Not sure why I find this so funny 😆

Edouard to Palace looks to be done. 20m pounds inclusive of add ons

here is where things stand on my rage/depression index

10 (most rage) - the fact that our "rivals" continue to sell their trash for top dollar, while we let our young players with actual upside go on loans and run their contracts down, or worse, freeze them out without even finding suitable loans

7 (high rage) - arteta will be here forever

5 (major depression) - we are still counting on xhaka as a starter, because we havent moved for a CM. its inexcusable

3 (moderate depression) - rightback is still a complete mess

Captain wrote:
Ray wrote:

Fucking hell, we’re penny pinching over Emerson, but spending lavishly on White and Ramsdale. Absolute frauds.

Truth is, not you or anyone else know how those deals will turn out, so they shouldn't be used as a rod to beat the club. 

If you want to point to transfers that have fucked us, there are far more obvious examples like the much fancied and much vaunted signings of Partey, Gabriel, Saliba and even Tierney to an extent. These guys range from average to absolute busts so far.

Seems like you're contradicting yourself here, if you're not in a position to judge the deals for White and Ramsdale yet you can't do it for someone like Partey either yet after just a season.

Of course it's possible to make those judgments based on reputation, past performances, fee and percentage of overall transfer budget, otherwise what's the point of discussing any player until the end of their deals here. Ray is bang on about what most of us saw early on, our splashing of 80m has left us hamstrung elsewhere and now we're scrambling for solutions with a ridiculously imbalanced squad.

jones wrote:
Captain wrote:

Truth is, not you or anyone else know how those deals will turn out, so they shouldn't be used as a rod to beat the club. 

If you want to point to transfers that have fucked us, there are far more obvious examples like the much fancied and much vaunted signings of Partey, Gabriel, Saliba and even Tierney to an extent. These guys range from average to absolute busts so far.

Seems like you're contradicting yourself here, if you're not in a position to judge the deals for White and Ramsdale yet you can't do it for someone like Partey either yet after just a season.

Of course it's possible to make those judgments based on reputation, past performances, fee and percentage of overall transfer budget, otherwise what's the point of discussing any player until the end of their deals here. Ray is bang on about what most of us saw early on, our splashing of 80m has left us hamstrung elsewhere and now we're scrambling for solutions with a ridiculously imbalanced squad.

We're hamstrung because we have too many players to register. It's the outgoings that are the issue. I don't agree with not signing your targets because somewhere down the line you 'may' be able to sign a different one; get in who the fuck you can right away. Some may see it different and that's okay.

I can solidly say that as thing stand, Partey, Gabriel etc. have been terrible to middling signings for Arsenal, based upon their perfomance for Arsenal. There is no contradiction there.

Cryptic message from Bell:

When everyone is scrambling for their jobs, somebody has to lose.

Edu to go first. Maybe they're going to hang him for something he did in Brazil. He seems to have been involved in a lot of dubious stuff.

Captain wrote:
Ray wrote:

Fucking hell, we’re penny pinching over Emerson, but spending lavishly on White and Ramsdale. Absolute frauds.

Truth is, not you or anyone else know how those deals will turn out, so they shouldn't be used as a rod to beat the club. 

If you want to point to transfers that have fucked us, there are far more obvious examples like the much fancied and much vaunted signings of Partey, Gabriel, Saliba and even Tierney to an extent. These guys range from average to absolute busts so far.

The contradiction is that "not you or anyone else" know how the signings of Partey, Gabriel, Saliba and Tierney will turn out either, because their careers here aren't done. Sure you can judge on what they've done at Arsenal so far, but then you can also judge Ramsdale on what he's done before Arsenal. Not sure why Partey's injury riddled season under Arteta would be a better predictor for future performances than the entire rest of his career just because it happened at Arsenal.

edu going would be a great first step.

second step is the new guy actually being someone who knows what the fuck they are doing.

third set is binning arteta

Klaus wrote:

Edu to go first. Maybe they're going to hang him for something he did in Brazil. He seems to have been involved in a lot of dubious stuff.

Edu has always struck me as being cut from the same cloth as Raul, except probs less effective. I’ve tried to be fair to him but our decision making this summer has been bonkers.

Willians message on IG all but confirmed he gave up all the money here to terminate his contract for free, and to give the media who accused him of being a mercenary a tight slap.

Camavinga to Real. 30m euros.

Hope he don't get a fair chance and then we sign him 2 years later.

Clrnc wrote:

Camavinga to Real. 30m euros.

Hope he don't get a fair chance and then we sign him 2 years later.

did he run down his contract or something? thought he was an elite talent

goon wrote:
Klaus wrote:

Edu to go first. Maybe they're going to hang him for something he did in Brazil. He seems to have been involved in a lot of dubious stuff.

Edu has always struck me as being cut from the same cloth as Raul, except probs less effective. I’ve tried to be fair to him but our decision making this summer has been bonkers.

Not to mention the world of Brazillian agents is full of dodgy dealings.

mdgoonah41 wrote:

did he run down his contract or something? thought he was an elite talent

One year left apparently. I thought he'd be one to watch in Jan tran but alas.

Would like to see the Mbappe transfer go over the line.

Rumours in Italy that Juventus are looking to sell Kulusevski to sort out their finances. Jesus christ, get in on this.

goon wrote:
Klaus wrote:

Edu to go first. Maybe they're going to hang him for something he did in Brazil. He seems to have been involved in a lot of dubious stuff.

Edu has always struck me as being cut from the same cloth as Raul, except probs less effective. I’ve tried to be fair to him but our decision making this summer has been bonkers.

Hard not to disagree. Amidst the occasional success, there's a been a lot of average (at best) leadership from him. Really not sure what value he's adding to the club. For all Arteta's faults, it'd be nice to know that there's some kind of plan but feel like Edu's got nothing.