Ricky1985 wrote:
I do think there's something in the idea of great managers being able to get their teams over the line in those huge moments. Obviously it's the players that have to do it, but the manager has an immensely important job to keep them calm and make them believe.
I'm not writing the Ten Haag off as a bottle job in any way, but I haven't sensed that Simeone, Guardiola, Klopp, Mourinho, Wenger, Fergie unidentifiable "thing" that means they tend to win these big moments way more than they lose them over the course of their careers.
I wouldn't put too much stock in the collective wisdom of some on here. If they had their way, we'd have Graham Potter in charge, built the team around The Jeff and have Schneiderlin shitting the bed in midfield.
The very rare exceptional managers who make the sum greater than the individual parts succeed despite the odds and over achieve. Ferguson (Aberdeen), Wenger (Monaco), Simeone (Atletico), Klopp (Dortmund), Mourinho (Porto) etc.
They then move to clubs with bigger budgets and win again. They are serial winners. Ten Haag did an excellent job to get Ajax to the semi's but they lost against the easiest team they could have possibly faced which dents his credentials as someone who can overachieve.
The fact that Tottenham have a bigger budget and arguably better players is a pertinent point. We are competing in a league with clubs with more money and better players so any managerial candidates need to have a record of overachieving if they are to be considered for the Arsenal hotseat.
Anyway, he didn't get the team over the line and whilst he's a good manager, he's definitely not a great one but inflating Spurs (Yes, fucking Spurs) value so they can praise a foreign manager whilst throwing a dig at the current Arsenal boss is par for the course on here.