Clrnc I’m with you. Prime Fabregas was godly. Even as a child, I’ll never forget first time seeing him play and look like a veteran from day1.

Qwiss Oh, that I agree. We had Ramsey and Cazorla and badly needed a striker but we got another playmaker lol.

He's been really out of it since he became a dad in the beginning of December. Could be coincidental, but I wonder if his head isn't all in the game.

Was never world class.

He’s a support man not a talisman

QuincyAbeyie I think Ode has always lacked some aspects. He would throw in a few games where he didn't really impact it enough and his finishing isn't the greatest unless he's running on to a strike. But for the most part he was pretty consistent but it certainly seems something isn't right with him at the moment.

Needs the right team around him.

Qwiss as anyone does. Even at his worst, he makes a few moments of magic. Least of our problems.

Coombs he had 7 key passes today. If we'd finished 2 of those we'd be praising him for a great game

I saw a stat that he created 10 chances today? didn't watch the game myself, but he can't have been terrible if that's true?

Gazza M — he created some decent chances, but he didn’t run the show. We never got consistent influence from him. We still look at odds going forward and he’s not doing enough to dictate how we attack.

I can understand why fans didn’t think much of his game today.

Should have scored his penalty but his overall performance was solid enough. If we actually had any finishers on the team he'd walk home with two or three assists.

Qwiss he had 7 key passes today. If we'd finished 2 of those we'd be praising him for a great game

Ode had some phenomenal passes today. We fucked around. I thought he played really well. He’s not the Roy of the Rovers scorer that some folks want. What he is is consistently one of Europe’s most creative players. These guys need to finish the chances he was putting on a plate today.

At the end of the day if we have 1 goal in last 8xG, the conversation shifts from the creatives to finishing.

Of all the games he's played in the last 1.5 months, this was one of his better. Penalty miss was a good save too.

naz Of all the games he's played in the last 1.5 months, this was one of his better. Penalty miss was a good save too.

Agreed. Our actual performance compared the the last few was much better. At least around the point the red card happened until the end of the swcond half. You could see there was an injection of directness in the way we wanted to force the issue. We were just shit again when we found ourselves in and around the box in taking our chances.

Sicario2 - Tier 1 Was never world class.

Mate you're sometimes a bit like an old millionaire stringing his kids along with capricious nonsense about their inheritances with this "was never world class" business ...

Ødegaard has often looked the best player in our league, I'm sure he "was world class" for at least half an hour in there.

he's back to loan spell ode. overly passive and prone to bad decisions. to me it looks like a fitness/ confidence issue that's come at the worst possible time

His football is still good. His leadership seems to be evading him. We are missing that a little. He is no Dennis Bergkamp like some were comparing earlier in the season but he is a damn good footballer who has lost his mojo a little for some reason. This is where a manager needs to earn his bucks.

He's not been great but he's also being asked to be the fulcrum of a pretty duff team just now.

He looks unfit and lacking sharpness. I've no doubt in my mind if we weren't struggling as we are he'd have had another couple of weeks of being eased in and likely be all the better for it.

He seems to be struggling with the chemistry of those around him, as the rest of the team is. There were a few moments in the game where him, Jesus and Timber all seemed to be gravitating towards each other without any real purpose or incisive movement in complete contrast to the Odegaard/Saka/White patterns we've seen. You wouldn't expect it to be anywhere near the understanding of those three, but it looked completely clueless at times.