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Arsenal join the Cowards League

QuincyAbeyie

jones wrote:
HomeSteak wrote:
Can't believe we fired Gunnersaurus to save money while knowing we will do this 😆

I forgot this happened just earlier this season 😆 this club can do one.

There's also those other 55 people who were fired..

lorddulaarsenal

Let’s gooo Gun-neerz

Repeat throughout the match

Claudius

Interesting. Listening to Arsecast. Apparently the Tolly is in financial trouble and venture capitalists want to close them and redevelop the neighborhood. There is a petition below you can sign to save the pub. I haven’t been but I’m worried about both the threat to small businesses from COVID, and being able to maintain the match going experience for folks.

http://chng.it/GnTqfnt4rs

awooga83

Well that's for legacy fans anyway right, the owners of the club don't care about them anyway they aren't the future so why do we want to support legacy pubs as is.

The club will kill it anyway down the line so what's the point in it hobbling on for now only to be finished when the club finally rid themselves of these legacy fan chains.

goon

This may have been asked in the 9 pages already but out of interest, working on the assumption that the ESL would happen with or without us, would you guys prefer we were inside or out?

I have to say, despite all my disdain for the concept, I'd rather be in it.

jones

goon wrote:
This may have been asked in the 9 pages already but out of interest, working on the assumption that the ESL would happen with or without us, would you guys prefer we were inside or out?

I'd genuinely rather get relegated.

Qwiss

If its happening I'd love to be out and just stay in the PL without the likes of City, United and Chelsea outspending us.

Qwiss

Just thinking if this flops and the 6 got relegated down to division 2 for instance only 4 could come back up. Given we are currently the worst of the 6 that'd probably mean us. 5 years out of the PL minimum. Would that be enough to rid us of KSE?

speedy

Qwiss! wrote:
Just thinking if this flops and the 6 got relegated down to division 2 for instance only 4 could come back up. Given we are currently the worst of the 6 that'd probably mean us. 5 years out of the PL minimum. Would that be enough to rid us of KSE?

Can't imagine they'd do that as it would punish the teams in division 2 and leave them no hoope of promotion. Besides how can Real vs city ect not sell.

JazzG

Kel Varnsen wrote:
Absolutely. If the top clubs want this, then they'll get it. Nothing UEFA or anyone else can do about that. But I'm still not fully convinced this isn't just a negotiation tactic from the top clubs.

Anyways, I'd watch a super league. I prefer world class football to mediocrity.

All these fans going on about not watching are talking nonsense, they'll on be back on board after their sulk. This is essentially the top clubs wrestling away power and accountability from UEFA & FIFA and getting even richer in the process. Doesn't take a genius to see why it is appealing to them. This game sold out long time ago, lets not act if this is some saintly institution being corrupted by the devil here.

Part of me doesn't want to see the clubs have this much power but then again why should we feel sorry for corrupt to the core organisations like FIFA & UEFA? Those organisations have been getting away with all sorts of illegal and morally bankrupt shit for years and now they are playing the victim? The Premier League can talk, wanted to charge £15 a match earlier this season in the midst of a pandemic so they can sit this one out as well. Same goes for the likes of Sky & BT who are only crying because they haven't been invited to the party.

Perez isn't wrong when he says football has become boring and needs a shake up. Whether this is the right approach I don't know.

goon

Qwiss! wrote:
If its happening I'd love to be out and just stay in the PL without the likes of City, United and Chelsea outspending us.

That wouldn't be the case though, they'd just have even more money than they already have while we'd most likely have less. Whatever they say this will significantly increase inequality with no prospect of that changing.

The question is are you happy to become a lesser evil mid table team in a rigged league or would you rather be one of the bad guys competing at the top?

It's a fucked up choice. The game is officially gone.

jones

I'm not watching this. Just because FIFA UEFA Sky etc are scum doesn't mean I have to follow an even bigger evil just because it walks away from them. Nobody said you're supposed to feel sorry for them you're supposed to condemn the obvious money grabbing attempt of this dumb idea.

Perez says football has become boring and his solution is to cement the circle of clubs who can play each other. I'm genuinely baffled how anyone can not violently oppose this harebrained concept.

AAStyle

Almost all my life following Arsenal the club has been an european powerhouse. But if this is the way by which we will remain at the top, then I don't want it.

QuincyAbeyie

goon wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
If its happening I'd love to be out and just stay in the PL without the likes of City, United and Chelsea outspending us.

That wouldn't be the case though, they'd just have even more money than they already have while we'd most likely have less. Whatever they say this will significantly increase inequality with no prospect of that changing.

The question is are you happy to become a lesser evil mid table team in a rigged league or would you rather be one of the bad guys competing at the top?

It's a fucked up choice. The game is officially gone.

So I take it that you're not only assuming that the ESL will happen, but that they'll still be able to be a part of the PL?

speedy

They'll definitely stay part of the premier League. The premier League hurts itself too much by kicking them out. They'll play hard ball but realistically they're not giving away their 7 most valuable assets.
If they did those 7 teams would just find another 10 English sides to have a super English league. These players are far to valuable to be not playing.

goon

Pretty much. A load of ex pros, fans, players are talking about banishing these guys but in reality the financial implications will not let that happen, that's my guess anyway.

Mirth

Ultimately this is a fight between UEFA and the ESL. The Premier league stands to lose from this as well but it's not an existential threat for any of the domestic leagues so they'll respond accordingly.

jones

You guys are talking about financial implications like those were happening just one way. The clubs breaking away are in deep shit themselves if this doesn't go as they hilariously seem to plan plus UEFA and FIFA hold a lot of sway over national FAs including the English one. Whatever happens it'll be a massive clusterfuck

QuincyAbeyie

Yeah pretty much what Jones says. The PL will lose a ton of money without the top six clubs and the ESL will not be successful if players there can't play for their national teams. The national team isn't important for club supporters, but it's incredibly important for many great players.

Kind of wish we never let Wenger go now. I reckon he'd walk immediately and it would be a strong stance against it.

lorddulaarsenal

jones wrote:
I'm not watching this. Just because FIFA UEFA Sky etc are scum doesn't mean I have to follow an even bigger evil just because it walks away from them. Nobody said you're supposed to feel sorry for them you're supposed to condemn the obvious money grabbing attempt of this dumb idea.

Perez says football has become boring and his solution is to cement the circle of clubs who can play each other. I'm genuinely baffled how anyone can not violently oppose this harebrained concept.

It’s a bit like having Pizza Hut for dinner every night. After a while you’ll fancy something different and yearn for Domino’s

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