Rohit wrote: Didn't Barcelona offer £50 Million for Henry the season before he left, post the CL final? We did very decently with some of our sales to City. We got robbed on RVP but he had only a year left and then there was that letter.
Didn't Barcelona offer £50 Million for Henry the season before he left, post the CL final? We did very decently with some of our sales to City. We got robbed on RVP but he had only a year left and then there was that letter.
Never felt worse than when RVP went there.
BY FAR the worst transfer.
sell to THEM?
Couple of confirmed deals.
Calhanoglu to Inter on a free transfer.
Milot Rashica to Norwich from Werder. He would be a good replacement for Buendia if he can recapture his form from 18/19 and 19/20.
Glad Hakan didn't land with us. Ramsdale is another I hope we lose out on.
KingslandBarge wrote: Glad Hakan didn't land with us. Ramsdale is another I hope we lose out on.
We have been linked to around 20 players. Most won’t land with us. You might as well stress out about Coutinho who is linked daily
PSG won over Chelsea, but 70 mil, thats a shitload of money
Trying to move again, the guys is so weird.
It feels like Milan have been trying to sign Bakayaoko for about 10 years now.
They want to sell to Juve, 40 mil + players.
Sad. Juve and Inter have a different knock for Italian players.
Why would anyone want to sell to a specific club?
Cos that’s where player wants to go?
That's not the same thing. I don't speak Italian so just going by what HomeSteak said, but it's weird if Sassuolo actually have made it clear that they want to sell him to Juve, thus stopping a bidding war from happening.
That's a pattern I realised with Serie A clubs, especially the bottom ones. They rather always sell to the top Serie A clubs, like there is some underlying benefits. Sometimes it comes with the top clubs gifting them some young players co-ownership etc. Part of the reason why Italians don't really go overseas too.
Quincy Abeyie wrote: That's not the same thing. I don't speak Italian so just going by what HomeSteak said, but it's weird if Sassuolo actually have made it clear that they want to sell him to Juve, thus stopping a bidding war from happening.
I think times have changed and player power has a bit more of an influence in where stars end up. You may be able to come to terms team to team, but what if the player refuses to agree personal terms with other clubs apart from the place he wants to go which may happen not to be the highest bidder. If they want to stay in Italy, then there’s only a limited number of clubs (usually 2 to 3) they might end up at anyway.
Caveat: I have zero clue how transfers and terms agreement work though. Just my uninformed idea on how things might turn out like that.
Honestly Sassuolo have nothing to gain from encouraging a bidding war.
They may be able to squeeze a few more million but I think it is not worth souring their relationship with Juvenuts or pissing of Locatelli.
Agents are the problem. They ruin everything and, frankly, they should be driven out of the game. Player protections should be ensured by players' unions, not agents.
Coombs wrote: Agents are the problem. They ruin everything and, frankly, they should be driven out of the game. Player protections should be ensured by players' unions, not agents.
From my experience of knowing players and agents the players are the once with higher greed. Agents have a ton of players so they're income is guaranteed. While players have only once chance to make as much as they can. They're often the ones pushing for the big bucks before they're ready to take the step up.
But obviously theirs greedy agents and greedy players and dodgy club directors.
speedy wrote: Coombs wrote: Agents are the problem. They ruin everything and, frankly, they should be driven out of the game. Player protections should be ensured by players' unions, not agents. From my experience of knowing players and agents the players are the once with higher greed. Agents have a ton of players so they're income is guaranteed. While players have only once chance to make as much as they can.
From my experience of knowing players and agents the players are the once with higher greed. Agents have a ton of players so they're income is guaranteed. While players have only once chance to make as much as they can.
But players aren't the ones developing back channels between clubs, DoFs, and other agents to ensure mutual enrichment. They are pawns and these unofficial networks are running the show. An agent can kill a players' career, a player can't really do the same because of the economies scale you mention.
Coombs wrote: speedy wrote: From my experience of knowing players and agents the players are the once with higher greed. Agents have a ton of players so they're income is guaranteed. While players have only once chance to make as much as they can. But players aren't the ones developing back channels between clubs, DoFs, and other agents to ensure mutual enrichment. They are pawns and these unofficial networks are running the show. An agent can kill a players' career, a player can't really do the same because of the economies scale you mention.
speedy wrote: From my experience of knowing players and agents the players are the once with higher greed. Agents have a ton of players so they're income is guaranteed. While players have only once chance to make as much as they can.
Managers just call agents directly all the time it's not really back channels. And I'm not sure it's in the agents interest to kill a players career. As fans it's just convenient to pretend the players are decent and agents are horrid but in reality the players are often the ones driving shit transfers.
speedy wrote: Coombs wrote: But players aren't the ones developing back channels between clubs, DoFs, and other agents to ensure mutual enrichment. They are pawns and these unofficial networks are running the show. An agent can kill a players' career, a player can't really do the same because of the economies scale you mention. Managers just call agents directly all the time it's not really back channels.
Coombs wrote: But players aren't the ones developing back channels between clubs, DoFs, and other agents to ensure mutual enrichment. They are pawns and these unofficial networks are running the show. An agent can kill a players' career, a player can't really do the same because of the economies scale you mention.
Managers just call agents directly all the time it's not really back channels.
That's exactly what it is. Clubs should represent players in accordance with a collective bargaining agreement regularly negotiated by players' unions, which would include transfer requests, etc. They shouldn't be calling up agents. It would reduce income inequality between players at all levels by rightfully depressing the wages of the highest earners, and it would eliminate the entirely unnecessary cost of agents fees in favor of union dues that would work to all players' benefit, not just a handful of agents and their "stables".
Claudius wrote: KingslandBarge wrote: Glad Hakan didn't land with us. Ramsdale is another I hope we lose out on. We have been linked to around 20 players. Most won’t land with us. You might as well stress out about Coutinho who is linked daily
I know there are some serious questions regarding this re his fitness, fee and wages, but in many ways he'd be the ideal age to bracket with ESR at CAM as he'd not block his development.
Dortmund wants Malen as a replacement for Sancho, but Liverpool first choice target this year is Malen too. PSV wants 40m euros for him.
Clrnc wrote: Dortmund wants Malen as a replacement for Sancho, but Liverpool first choice target this year is Malen too. PSV wants 40m euros for him.
Late stage Wenger was pure value destruction. The amount of grief levied at Arteta about so-called value destruction should be pointed at Wenger and Gazidis. Malen, Gnabry, Bennacer, Etc. Especially Bennacer given the mix of players we have now.
