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Has Arteta Truly Turned it Around?

Qwiss

Claudius wrote:
Isn’t part of our dead ball problem that many of these balls don’t ever make it to the box in the first place. We faff around doing fancy routines

Yeah its hard for the centre halfs to get their on the ball if its a short pass. Our set pieces have been a mess all season.

Qwiss

goon wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Isn’t part of our dead ball problem that many of these balls don’t ever make it to the box in the first place. We faff around doing fancy routines

Yeah, first half of the season we were trying some nonsense at the near post or whipping it into the keeper.

More recently we’ve gotten better at getting the right ball in but our aerial threat is so poor. Luiz is the only one who ever really looks like he’s interested in fighting for the ball. Holding gets on the end of a few to be fair but always lacks direction.

Gabriel wins his fair share of attacking headers. Luiz did that runs across the 6 yard box trick he does but Gab is the one who is actually fairly dominant in the air.

Clrnc

Agree. Luiz is very strong in attacking aerially because his is pretty brave but Gabriel is a monster in the air, just haven't got into the right areas often enough during corners.

Holding always gets into space for headers but has no direction and power. Opposite of Gabriel

Sicario

HomeSteak wrote:
Sicario wrote:
The guy that set cones had already won more than managerial geniuses like Poch.

Poch won one of the cups with PSG. But come on, even if he had not...are you saying Arteta is a better manager?

Yes

Sicario

Clrnc wrote:
And the he never won any trophies argument is ridiculously stupid from back then. It has always been proven wrong time and time again with good managers, in the end they always won more after awhile than the one we are defending.

Like Emery?

Anzac

Back him or sack him = simple as.

If we're not going to back him to get the players he wants to play his style then what's the point of keeping him if we want to regain top3/UCL?

Anzac

goon wrote:
Out of interest, given that it seems highly likely Arteta will stay on, what would it take (for anyone who thinks he should go), to change your mind?

For me personally, a good transfer window is key. I'd love to come out at the end of summer and think that we have a lean squad in good shape, not just for the coming season but for the medium term too.

In terms of actual football, we need to create more chances. I don't really care how we do it, but we need to be able to create and convert chances regularly, I'd like to become a 70+ goal a season team again in the league. Until we manage to do that, I'll have no real confidence that even a good run of results can be sustained.

Sounds good for me.

Anzac

Qwiss! wrote:
He'd have to finish in the top 4 next season to change my mind.

Not likely considering we'd have to be better than 1 of MC, CFC, LFC, MU in order to do so.

Qwiss

Anzac wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
He'd have to finish in the top 4 next season to change my mind.

Not likely considering we'd have to be better than 1 of MC, CFC, LFC, MU in order to do so.

Only 1 of those teams looks out of sight at the moment.

goon

on whether this is going to be a busy summer...
Yes, if I have to answer to every question about every possible transfer or what players might be leaving, we will be sitting here for hours. What I can say is that we know what we want to do and there is a clear plan to put that together. It's true that there are a lot of decision to make, because as well we have a lot of players on loan, some of them have to come back and we will see step-by-step and focus on the priorities that we have. Let's see how much we can do.

on what we have to work on next season...
I want to reflect now, in the next week or so when we finish but I'm sure we've done a couple of things wrong, 100 per cent now I can tell you that now before going through it. So how am I going to make much better decisions and get the best out of these players and get the best out of this football club and all the resources that we have? I have spent a lot of time and effort identifying critical points to change and then how those changes are going to be made, in which timeframe we could do them and I want to spend time building, creating and with all the foundations that we have in place now, evolving the club and everything in the way that we want to do. I want a preseason where we can work with the players and create. I'm a really creative person, I really want to create and evolve and a lot of the time since I've come here, I've been determined to make some very, very difficult decisions that I have to do. But I want to start doing more and more and more, because the capacity that we have to do it is incredible. I am so excited about that and I see that moment of a lot of change as a big opportunity for our future.

on being 'like a Picasso' of football...
I'm not saying that! I love to create, there are a lot of good things that we've done since we changed many things but there is still a lot to do. A lot to catchup, but our potential is incredible because I can see the ambition from the club and when we have that type of ambition, we have an incredible margin to achieve what we want.

jones

That last question has to be a pisstake from a journalist 😆

Honestly I can't even see why people act as if he was this brilliant communicator. He's waffling about half the time and the other he's full of shit.

Qwiss

I have spent a lot of time and effort identifying critical points to change and then how those changes are going to be made, in which timeframe we could do them and I want to spend time building, creating and with all the foundations that we have in place now, evolving the club and everything in the way that we want to do.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

BWooley

His communication style exactly mirrors the club - meaningless corporate jargon spouted without any degree of real competence behind it.

Bosscielny

Keep it coming, boys. I’m almost there.

Kel Varnsen

goon wrote:
on whether this is going to be a busy summer...
Yes, if I have to answer to every question about every possible transfer or what players might be leaving, we will be sitting here for hours. What I can say is that we know what we want to do and there is a clear plan to put that together. It's true that there are a lot of decision to make, because as well we have a lot of players on loan, some of them have to come back and we will see step-by-step and focus on the priorities that we have. Let's see how much we can do.

on what we have to work on next season...
I want to reflect now, in the next week or so when we finish but I'm sure we've done a couple of things wrong, 100 per cent now I can tell you that now before going through it. So how am I going to make much better decisions and get the best out of these players and get the best out of this football club and all the resources that we have? I have spent a lot of time and effort identifying critical points to change and then how those changes are going to be made, in which timeframe we could do them and I want to spend time building, creating and with all the foundations that we have in place now, evolving the club and everything in the way that we want to do. I want a preseason where we can work with the players and create. I'm a really creative person, I really want to create and evolve and a lot of the time since I've come here, I've been determined to make some very, very difficult decisions that I have to do. But I want to start doing more and more and more, because the capacity that we have to do it is incredible. I am so excited about that and I see that moment of a lot of change as a big opportunity for our future.

on being 'like a Picasso' of football...
I'm not saying that! I love to create, there are a lot of good things that we've done since we changed many things but there is still a lot to do. A lot to catchup, but our potential is incredible because I can see the ambition from the club and when we have that type of ambition, we have an incredible margin to achieve what we want.

Arteta is a fraud.

Sicario

BWooley wrote:
His communication style exactly mirrors the club - meaningless corporate jargon spouted without any degree of real competence behind it.

You must have forgotten Wenger’s press conferences.

Emery was really good too.

Meatwad

goon wrote:
on whether this is going to be a busy summer...
Yes, if I have to answer to every question about every possible transfer or what players might be leaving, we will be sitting here for hours. What I can say is that we know what we want to do and there is a clear plan to put that together. It's true that there are a lot of decision to make, because as well we have a lot of players on loan, some of them have to come back and we will see step-by-step and focus on the priorities that we have. Let's see how much we can do.

on what we have to work on next season...
I want to reflect now, in the next week or so when we finish but I'm sure we've done a couple of things wrong, 100 per cent now I can tell you that now before going through it. So how am I going to make much better decisions and get the best out of these players and get the best out of this football club and all the resources that we have? I have spent a lot of time and effort identifying critical points to change and then how those changes are going to be made, in which timeframe we could do them and I want to spend time building, creating and with all the foundations that we have in place now, evolving the club and everything in the way that we want to do. I want a preseason where we can work with the players and create. I'm a really creative person, I really want to create and evolve and a lot of the time since I've come here, I've been determined to make some very, very difficult decisions that I have to do. But I want to start doing more and more and more, because the capacity that we have to do it is incredible. I am so excited about that and I see that moment of a lot of change as a big opportunity for our future.

on being 'like a Picasso' of football...
I'm not saying that! I love to create, there are a lot of good things that we've done since we changed many things but there is still a lot to do. A lot to catchup, but our potential is incredible because I can see the ambition from the club and when we have that type of ambition, we have an incredible margin to achieve what we want.

it took wenger 20 years before i couldn't stand his press conference jibber jabber nonsense, arteta got there in a little over a year.

BWooley

Sicario wrote:
BWooley wrote:
His communication style exactly mirrors the club - meaningless corporate jargon spouted without any degree of real competence behind it.

You must have forgotten Wenger’s press conferences.

Emery was really good too.

Wasn't referring to Wenger, but to the communication from the club management - Josh K, Vinai, etc. Edu barely speaks to the press anyway. All communication emerging from Arsenal is as empty and hollow as this.

Bosscielny

What do you want him to say? He admits to fucking up like straight away, doesn’t he?

jones

Don't know about Wooley but I'd like him to admit that he's a fraud and that he needs to be an intern somewhere where his fuckups don't impact so many people.

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