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Has Arteta Truly Turned it Around?

Claudius

Lol. Is that what you would do, Jones. Start your Friday press conference with “Hi, I’m a fraud”. Why don’t you try that here to show us how easy it is

jones

Problem is no one would believe me. If Arteta were half as good a poster as I was half the posters here would be singing his praises wearing turtle necks and blockhead wigs.

Qwiss

BWooley wrote:
His communication style exactly mirrors the club - meaningless corporate jargon spouted without any degree of real competence behind it.

Thats exactly it.

Claudius

Meh was hailed as a great communicator with clear ideas when he arrived. Now that we still midtable he’s full of meaningless corporate jargon

Qwiss

Talk is cheap. He's always been like this, the only difference is now he's proven how hollow his words are.

BWooley

Claude, not really. I think everyone wanted to believe the best when he joined and was a sea change from Emery unfortunately trying to speak in his 4th language.

QuincyAbeyie

Claudius wrote:
Meh was hailed as a great communicator with clear ideas when he arrived. Now that we still midtable he’s full of meaningless corporate jargon

You think it's weird that whether or not what he's saying is considered "meaningless corporate jargon" is correlated with results? If someone says they'll give you something, it's great if they do and bullshit if they don't.

FEBravo

Qwiss! wrote:
Talk is cheap. He's always been like this, the only difference is now he's proven how hollow his words are.

That's exactly it.

Don Pacifico

The fact people got frustrated with what Wenger said towards the end of his time is indicative of Claus's point, I think. Sentiment changes when results are bad and then lens through which we view the person isn't as rosy.

Qwiss

Its easy to answer questions about your successes.

Clrnc

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Claudius wrote:
Meh was hailed as a great communicator with clear ideas when he arrived. Now that we still midtable he’s full of meaningless corporate jargon

You think it's weird that whether or not what he's saying is considered "meaningless corporate jargon" is correlated with results? If someone says they'll give you something, it's great if they do and bullshit if they don't.

Can't believe a simple logic like this people couldn't get it.

Of course he looks like a genius if he deliver what he talks about. The fact is he didn't, so it looks like he is talking shit and making empty promises.

flobaba

Always thought the communication angle when it came to Arteta v Emery was racist / xenophobic nonsense anyway.

Claudius

flobaba wrote:
Always thought the communication angle when it came to Arteta v Emery was racist / xenophobic nonsense anyway.

I agree with this take. They may both be Spaniards but one was more acceptable

Bosscielny

Clrnc wrote:
Quincy Abeyie wrote:
You think it's weird that whether or not what he's saying is considered "meaningless corporate jargon" is correlated with results? If someone says they'll give you something, it's great if they do and bullshit if they don't.

Can't believe a simple logic like this people couldn't get it.

Of course he looks like a genius if he deliver what he talks about. The fact is he didn't, so it looks like he is talking shit and making empty promises.

You boys are both acting as cliff notes to Claude’s original post. You see that, aye?

Bosscielny

jones wrote:
Problem is no one would believe me. If Arteta were half as good a poster as I was half the posters here would be singing his praises wearing turtle necks and blockhead wigs.

Well you do have 18 thousand posts and 18 green hearts on an online forum.

And all he’s got are his coaching badges, a lifetime in the system and access to decades of experience from some of the best and brightest footballing minds the world has ever seen.

Then again, none of that stopped him watching Ceballos try and get him fired every round (Oh i get. There’s the appeal) only to end up picking him again in the following round. So i can see why you’d think he’s not on your level.

Qwiss

flobaba wrote:
Always thought the communication angle when it came to Arteta v Emery was racist / xenophobic nonsense anyway.

Its typical of people to prefer Spaniards to checks notes ehh other Spaniards.

jones

Qwiss! wrote:
flobaba wrote:
Always thought the communication angle when it came to Arteta v Emery was racist / xenophobic nonsense anyway.

Its typical of people to prefer Spaniards to checks notes ehh other Spaniards.

Well one Spaniard could've played for England and the other became a meme within two words of his first presser. Racist is the wrong term but there's a reason the media aren't tearing into Arteta the way they did into Emery.

jones

Bosscielny wrote:
jones wrote:
Problem is no one would believe me. If Arteta were half as good a poster as I was half the posters here would be singing his praises wearing turtle necks and blockhead wigs.

Well you do have 18 thousand posts and 18 green hearts on an online forum.

And all he’s got are his coaching badges, a lifetime in the system and access to decades of experience from some of the best and brightest footballing minds the world has ever seen.

So does Alex McLeish who learned from Ferguson and even won a trophy with lowly Birmingham against the mighty Arsenal back in 2011. If you come with those kinds of accolades you're basically sacrosanct innit.

Qwiss

They're definitely easier on Arteta but its for quite a few reasons. Racism is not one of them.

speedy

We used to be the easiest team in the league to play against. Theirs definitely been huge improvement on that front.

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