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Has Arteta Truly Turned it Around?

Gazza M

Clrnc wrote:
flobaba wrote:
I don’t think so. I think the media just realizes and accepts us for what we are - a formerly good or great team now fizzling into mid table, with some aspirations of getting back into the top 4-8 spots. And they analyze or criticize our results within that lens.

Plus, he does say a lot of the right things. He is very media savvy. Doesn’t give controversial answers, doesn’t attack the refs, or the opposition or the media. Just a regular old mediocre manager of a team playing regular old mediocre football most of the time, and getting one or two big results a season against the likes of Tottenham, and pointing to that as success.

He's a PR expert, no doubt about it. We even organise fake social media interaction these days to boost the image.

haha how vomitous

goon

jones wrote:
The TV Show he enjoys most is Ted Lasso. And how he smiles during tough times. Guess he got the job because him and Josh have that in common

Also "you obviously don't get a lot of time off" 😆 the man's a football manager ffs. The guy who asked the question has this as his twitter profile picture

This is embarrassing. We need a restart in League One, drown the club so far and deep into the water to rinse elements like these out

That's amazing 😆

Qwiss

There are also rumours Arteta is dressing David Ornstein

Meatwad

since it looks like we're all in with this clown i hope he never becomes like wenger who thought it was cool to give ungrateful pricks like giroud every opportunity instead of replacing his lame ass.

Olivier Giroud - "At Chelsea, when you're not scoring enough goals they might pick up another striker to replace you. Maybe in a club like Chelsea you have less time to show your qualities than at Arsenal."

Qwiss

He's not wrong is he?

jones

He isn't but he's in no position to talk about it. Same as RVP both wouldn't have gotten to where they eventually got if the club did as they suggest

Clrnc

Fuck him. Proper cunt. The way he speaks about us and then bigs up Chelsea is disgusting.

goon

Guys the biggest loser out there, the way he talks about Chelsea because they treat him like a spare tyre sums him up perfectly. How this subpar piece of trash has won almost everything I will never understand.

At least Thierry was right about him never winning the PL.

Klaus

Giroud never gets tired of dragging himself in media. "I wasn't good enough for Arsenal but they still played me, and then I wasn't good enough for Chelsea either and they dumped me into the reserve cups" is not the burn he thinks it is.

Burnwinter

He's a solid pro who used his limited attributes with intelligence at Arsenal and elsewhere. Yeah it sucked during his long unproductive stretches, but he's right he wouldn't have been the first choice target for years at a more ambitious club, Wenger was principally responsible for that.

ohboy

Klaus wrote:
Giroud never gets tired of dragging himself in media. "I wasn't good enough for Arsenal but they still played me, and then I wasn't good enough for Chelsea either and they dumped me into the reserve cups" is not the burn he thinks it is.

Exactly. Zero self awareness.

If Wenger had actually invested properly back then, there is no doubt he could have seriously challenged again.

Sticking with players like Giroud, Denilson et al is a major reason we fell away from being a serious contender in the league.

Anzac

Signed to be PlanB but ended up as PlanA by default when RVP departed in the same transfer window. Was never suited to carrying the attack or being the main goal scorer.
My 'fondest' memory of him being that incident in Arteta's FA Cup Final win.

Anzac

ohboy!!! wrote:
Klaus wrote:
Giroud never gets tired of dragging himself in media. "I wasn't good enough for Arsenal but they still played me, and then I wasn't good enough for Chelsea either and they dumped me into the reserve cups" is not the burn he thinks it is.

Exactly. Zero self awareness.

If Wenger had actually invested properly back then, there is no doubt he could have seriously challenged again.

Sticking with players like Giroud, Denilson et al is a major reason we fell away from being a serious contender in the league.

TBH we're still doing it now re the likes of PEA, Laca, Xhaka Pepe, and Elneny (to a lesser extent).

Qwiss

Burnwinter wrote:
He's a solid pro who used his limited attributes with intelligence at Arsenal and elsewhere. Yeah it sucked during his long unproductive stretches, but he's right he wouldn't have been the first choice target for years at a more ambitious club, Wenger was principally responsible for that.

100%

Shady

A solid pro who cheated on his wife the night before a match, resulting in the manager having to discipline him.

Gazza M

clownish comments from giroud. like when Denison came out and said arsenal weren't winning enough trophies so he wanted to leave. both of them owe arsenal their entire reputations, and were lucky to have lasted as long as they did at the club

Burnwinter

Oh no, he cheated on his wife—honestly a commonplace, especially among footballers, and nothing to do with his football really. Yeah it's a dickhead act, but let's keep the lines of criticism crisp.

Qwiss! wrote:
Burnwinter wrote:
He's a solid pro who used his limited attributes with intelligence at Arsenal and elsewhere. Yeah it sucked during his long unproductive stretches, but he's right he wouldn't have been the first choice target for years at a more ambitious club, Wenger was principally responsible for that.

100%

It beggars belief for me that so many are willing to slate this guy—who's proven able to participate in major triumphs elsewhere—for not signing a world class striker to sit ahead of him in the pecking order. Far from something in his job description.

This distorted way we continue to reflect on the dire years under Wenger is symptomatic of our mid table status. As a club, Board, manager, staff, squad, fans, Arsenal needs to be moving rationally towards a future free of these distortions.

QuincyAbeyie

You obviously don't think anyone on this board are slating Giroud for not signing a world class striker ahead of him, so I don’t see why it's relevant that it beggars belief.

Or you do actually think that, which would be both disappointing and nonsensical.

Burnwinter

Makes sense to me, but you know, logic can be elusive on the internet. We've got people pointing out correctly that Giroud had his limits as a player, then acting like our dependence on him for years was his fault, and he shouldn't dare to speak about that or compare his situation when at Arsenal to the outfits he won the Champions League and the World Cup with—from the bench.

As a player he's someone who has tended to exceed his limits, and it's not as if he's indulging in scathing criticism of our club. We were badly run for years when Giroud was on board, let's admit that so we can address the psychology underpinning it.

Klaus

He's a donkey who knocked us out of Champions League, same as Bendtner. He then went to Chelsea and has spent all his time since ripping on us and celebrating goals with relish in our face. If anyone had a modicum of fondness for him because he exceeded his level by consistently racking up the kind of numbers that Aubameyang got hounded for last season then it would surely be gone at this stage.

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