goon wrote:
jones wrote:
I'm sorry but this is nonsense Burns. There are so many clubs in England and Europe who show that you can succeed without massive funding for years now, all of them with a much smaller name than ours too. This talk of managing expectations, leadership etc is all just masking the fact that we have no football brains in charge of the club and more importantly a hack as our manager, why exactly would we still look shit with a smart and talented manager?
What are the examples in England? The closest is Leicester and freak title win aside the best they've managed is 5th.
Arsenal fans may be horrified by finishing 8th twice in a row but I don't think the limit of their expectations is to finish 5th or to sneak into 4th.
Leicester were in the Championship seven years ago, now "the best they've managed is 5th" 😆 I don't even think Leicester are doing extraordinarily well compared to others in Europe but if we had the same kind of competence in scouting and staffing we'd have won at least two titles in that time frame. Or do you think that regardless of what prestige, stadium, academy talents and money the people in charge there have the maximum they would've gotten is 5th?
Even abroad where there's less money success from sides who's budget is smaller is extremely limited and when they do happen, they're extraordinary feats rather than the norm.
Of course not everyone can be successful, that's kind of the point in competing to be not good but better than the others. Which is completely irrelevant to the Premier League because so many hacks are in charge of football clubs if you have the right people making the right calls you will succeed 100%. Chelsea pissed away more than half a season under Lampard this year and still finished 4th, worse still they managed to get 4th last season already. Liverpool sneaked into 3rd with 69 points playing dogshit all season.
And if we're talking about other leagues, Gladbach were in a relegation playoff ten years ago with no money, now they've established themselves as a club that regularly plays CL and EL. Frankfurt were in a relegation playoff five seasons ago and played EL three of the last four seasons and are signing talents sought after by top clubs. Atalanta doesn't need much explaining. Napoli were a recently promoted midtable team until they hit the jackpot with Cavani. Lille finished 2nd last season sold Pepe and won the league this season. Monaco had several revivals in the last couple years. Sevilla sell their best players every year and are still successful, Atletico were eternally dodgy until Simeone came. How many more examples of well run clubs who outperform their big budgets competitors do you need or does every league have 25% extraordinary clubs.
Regardless who the manager is, we need to spend lots and we need to spend it well if we want to catch the guys at the top.
We finished six points behind Chelsea. I don't know what to tell you if you think there's no manager out there who'd be an immediate improvement worth at least six points.
