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Martin Odegaard

Gazza M

his penetrative passing stats are up there with Messi in la liga. hopefully he brings that to the table

goon

Fantastic news to wake up to. Get a £40m double deal for him and Ceballos in the summer so Madrid can buy Mbappe.

We're going to be good at football again.

KingslandBarge

With you flob. The ideal of this guy always appealed to me for an Arsenal midfield but now that we're talking actual possibilities, my outlook is a bit muddled. All in all I wanted another creative/goal scoring addition in this month for us to take a top 5 ambition seriously, because relying on only a 20 year old with an injury record for an essential and yet scarce profile in the team would be negligent and reek of mediocrity for the season. This ticks it so I'm content. While MØ isn't exactly a grown man with CL mileage and experience to lift the campaign(which I think was needed to balance the inexperience of several starters), he is a loan option till the summer, talented, La Liga experienced, and I imagine able to swap with Smith-Rowe if needed.

Part of the muddled outlook has to do with wariness of his goalscoring potential, how quick his feet are and how close he likes to keep the ball. How markedly different his quality is to say Willock or Ceballos at 8, or Smith-Rowe at free roam attacking. It seems like ages since he was making noise at Real Sociedad (at least to a casual like me) so maybe it'll all be a super reminder if/once its sealed.

Qwiss

If there is no option in this deal he needs to be back up and nothing more.

goon

Sicario

Kel Varnsen wrote:
Sicario wrote:
Guys don’t want to get my hopes high but is he Ceballos level technically or better?

Much better. Technically he is as good as they get.

03.13 in this:

Cheers, will give this a proper watch during my lunch break.

Jens

Gazza M wrote:
his penetrative passing stats are up there with Messi in la liga. hopefully he brings that to the table

His final ball is Fabregas level quality, it's absolutely sensational. Now he's not yet shown himself to be a patch on a prime Cesc, and there's a good chance he never will reach that level, but he does have every tool in his locker.

Big Willie

I like his style. He has a really nice turn of pace and change in direction seems an excellent pass and move player but I don't see some unbelievable passing ability like some seem to say. I do like the thought of him playing slightly deeper however. Seems to have that ability of Santi to get out of tight situations with some quick feet and trickery as well as the ability to get the ball forward quickly. I don't know if Partey and Odegaard can work as a double pivot in the 4231 with ESR but if that could work then it this signing could turn out to be a real multiplier effect.

As a player playing further up the pitch he looks like a decent player, potentially a really good player but doesn't look like a immediate difference maker. I get the feeling that he's a player that is still developing rather than a ready made close to finished product for us. From the videos I've seen he doesn't seem to create loads of goalscoring chances nor does he look like scoring a lot of goals. Feels more like a facilitator rather than an end product player.

If he was a player we own I'd feel a lot better because then we'd be the club benefitting long term through his development with us. However onsidering our reliance on ESR for creativity he will be someone who can play the same role at a similar/potentially higher level so would be good. Doubt know if he'll be able to have a Bruno Fernandes like effect on our season but let's see.

banduan

what even the fuck how does this even happen.

If he does well enough in the loan that we'll regret having to send him back, he will have done his job. Right now Ceballos has not quite achieved that. But this guy is levels above Dani.

Temo

His profile alone is exactly what we should be focusing on. Young talents who we aren't pouring our budget into. If they don't work, take the loss, if they do - you're building a team that will grow together and eventually be better than anything we can afford otherwise. We need 2-3 more big young talents to go with what we have, and it may take 5-6 signings to find them. In the meantime, go out and fill the rest of the squad with PL experienced, James Milner type, workhorses (the logic behind Willian) to foil the young crop as their coming of age in a demanding league like the PL.

Jens

Ornstein on Norwegian telly sounding very confident this will happen.

Sicario

First Norwegian to play for Arsenal ? We’re had Swedes, Danes....

Klaus

We have no squad places available at the moment apparently. Fingers crossed for a Luiz deregistration though.

Qwiss

Klaus wrote:
We have no squad places available at the moment apparently. Fingers crossed for a Luiz deregistration though.

Don't we have Kolasinacs spot?

Sicario

Klaus wrote:
We have no squad places available at the moment apparently. Fingers crossed for a Luiz deregistration though.

Runnarson will prob go on loan

Klaus

Qwiss! wrote:
Klaus wrote:
We have no squad places available at the moment apparently. Fingers crossed for a Luiz deregistration though.

Don't we have Kolasinacs spot?

I don't think so, Ryan took that spot and contrary to what's being reported he isn't homegrown (Scottish passport holders aren't homegrown; Tierney doesn't count as one either). We'd have to sign someone English or Welsh.

Qwiss

Klaus wrote:
Qwiss! wrote:
Don't we have Kolasinacs spot?

I don't think so, Ryan took that spot and contrary to what's being reported he isn't homegrown (Scottish passport holders aren't homegrown; Tierney doesn't count as one either). We'd have to sign someone English or Welsh.

Forgot about Ryan. Someone else must be going out so and not a homegrown player. Mustafi would be the most obvious I suppose, although Arteta seemed keen to keep him.

While looking up our squad list I discovered Matt Maceys middle name is Ryan.

QuincyAbeyie

I think I read somewhere that a club can only have one player on loan from the same club, which would mean thst Ceballos has to go back. I'll let someone else confirm whether this is true or not.

Klaus

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
I think I read somewhere that a club can only have one player on loan from the same club, which would mean thst Ceballos has to go back. I'll let someone else confirm whether this is true or not.

Someone claimed it's not true when it comes to loans from Spain, but Premier League clubs can't have more than two players on loan at the same time, so same difference really. We just loaned Ryan so Ceballos would indeed have to leave to make room.

Edit: I'm actually not sure about the loan rule either, I think it might just pertain to English clubs. Where's that Premier League handbook...

Sicario

Prem clubs cant have two loaned players from the same club in the Prem. We are good with Dani and Martin (if we get him).

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