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Arsenal exits Jan 2022

goon

We couldn't get £20m for him last year, an average season in Germany with him down to a year left on his deal isn't going to do wonders for you. You could probably get a little more if it were Bayern, PSG, Atletico and Barcelona fighting over him rather than a mid table French side.

Qwiss

I'd rather keep him at that money but obviously the manager doesn't like him and would probably prefer to spend the money someone in their early 30s.

Gazza M

we actually offered Luiz another year and he was the one who turned it down. once again it doesn't say much for edu that we were actually going to extend his deal

Claudius

goon wrote:
We couldn't get £20m for him last year, an average season in Germany with him down to a year left on his deal isn't going to do wonders for you. You could probably get a little more if it were Bayern, PSG, Atletico and Barcelona fighting over him rather than a mid table French side.

Yeah. That’s my thinking. It’s a midtable team from a broke league.

Also says a lot about our recruiting that we don’t have Newcastle and co fighting for him.

Gazza M

what's the non hopium argument for getting more than 15m in a depressed market for a troublesome young player coming off an average season?

Qwiss

Gazza M wrote:
we actually offered Luiz another year and he was the one who turned it down. once again it doesn't say much for edu that we were actually going to extend his deal

Not a good sign.

Clrnc

People have to hear it from Arteta to believe it, similar to the Mustafi reports then. Not surprised.

He also says he won't let Willian and Leno leave. All under contract will likely be here. Hopes tarnished then

jones

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Not sure why it's surprising that clubs would want to pay 15m for Guendouzi.

People love to shit on their own while praising everyone else. Guendouzi is a massive talent who even In a dogshit Berlin team looked serviceable. I'd rather have a new manager and sporting director have a look at them instead of making a quick 15m on him when his value is probably half what it was a year ago. You lot are terrible sellers

Qwiss

Clrnc wrote:
He also says he won't let Willian and Leno leave.

What! He's already dropped Willian, that makes zero sense. :boris:

goon

Clrnc wrote:
People have to hear it from Arteta to believe it, similar to the Mustafi reports then. Not surprised.

He also says he won't let Willian and Leno leave. All under contract will likely be here. Hopes tarnished then

So you think Laca, AMN, Willock, Nelson, Eddie, Guendouzi and Kolasinac are all staying too then? It's just standard manager talk.

Also Arteta didn't say we offered a new deal to Luiz, in fact he pretty much said this is the best course of action? He's talking about last summer with regards to the decision to extend his contract.

Gazza M

on second reading it looks like he was referring to last year's extension. bit of weird wording there

goon

Got a quote? The only one I can see that mentions any sort of extension is this:

on whose decision it was for David Luiz to leave...
We had very clear talks in the last few months. We already had a big decision to make last year when we had to extend his contract in a very difficult moment during the COVID world, the pay cuts and everything. We managed to extend that for one more season. He's given his best, I tried to help him as much as I possibly could, and the club did as well. After some conversations, we decided it's the best way to do it now.

on how the decision was reached...
It's after a few conversations that we had, David and I. We discussed the situation on different occasions and the other day we made the final decision on it.

Bosscielny

jones wrote:
Quincy Abeyie wrote:
Not sure why it's surprising that clubs would want to pay 15m for Guendouzi.

People love to shit on their own while praising everyone else.

Took the words out of my mouth. Good stuff, Jones.

Bosscielny

Gazza M wrote:
on second reading it looks like he was referring to last year's extension. bit of weird wording there

“Now they’re saying it’s a two pointer, had a foot on the line.”

GooneriC

Marseilles in for Douzi apparently.

banduan

for less than we bought him for. Which is annoying.

Coombs

Why would it be less than 7 mil?

banduan

Coombs wrote:
Why would it be less than 7 mil?

thought we got him for 20 mil?

Coombs

nope, just 7

KingslandBarge

KingslandBarge wrote:
The beauty is that a decision doesn't need to be made for the best part of 1.5 seasons. Willock was jumping and evolving up to that Leicester game he claimed the MOTM award this season. Now he's out of his comfort zone and will be thrown into an environment that should engender growth. In too many ways to mention. I'm interested to track his development. If he wants to enjoy things further up the pitch, hopefully he gets to racking up around 30 passes a game consistently, 1-2 key passes too but most definitely learning to put away his goalscoring chances that he creates through intelligent runs and positions. We'll see if he's more central in practice; I have my doubts about his desire to do the laborious parts there.

Through out a a couple success metrics back when Willock's loan began and this is how he fared in comparison:

v Wolves: 20 passes, 0 key passes
v WBA: 23 passes, 1 key passes n n,
v Aston Villa: 35 passes, 1 key pass,
v Brighton: 9 passes, 0 key passes
*v Tottenham: 1 goal, 5 passes, 0 key passes
*v West Ham: 1 goal, 2 passes, 0 key passes,
*v Liverpool: 1 goal, 6 passes, 0 key passes,
v Leicester: 1 goal, 18 passes, 0 key passes
v Man City: 1 goal, 16 passes, 0 key passes
v Sheff Utd.: 1 goal, 22 passes, 2 key passes
v Fulham: 1 goal, 24 passes, 0 key passes

*Sub appearances

Average as starter: 21 passes, .5 key passes, 2.4 dribbles
Overall, 8 goals in 11 appearances, a goal ever 123 minutes (vs. 246 career average)

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