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Arsenal exits Jan 2022

HomeSteak

Shame if true.
Arteta on the situation, strange

Arteta asked about talks with Balogun:

"You need three parties to make a deal. For sure, the club wants to make a deal, the manager wants to make a deal, the player wants to stay and I'm not sure about the agent."

Sicario

Romano’s take:

To show our hand, I suspect Arteta will play him on Sat.

AAStyle

That would be a bold move, and personally I would applaud it.

goon

Sicario wrote:
Romano’s take:

To show our hand, I suspect Arteta will play him on Sat.

I wonder how this works with the agent also representing Eddie. They compete for the same spot, so you're basically saying if you don't play my client over my other client then my client will leave.

It could be that we're being played like Klaus suggested, it wouldn't surprise me, but if we really rate him we have no choice but to take it at face value and show him through both actions and words that he has a pathway to game time.

Arguably the biggest indicator for that would be to loan out Eddie.

Gazza M

HomeSteak wrote:

Shame if true.
Arteta on the situation, strange

Arteta asked about talks with Balogun:

"You need three parties to make a deal. For sure, the club wants to make a deal, the manager wants to make a deal, the player wants to stay and I'm not sure about the agent."

he's looked so promising. getting gnabry flashbacks here

goon

I still think he'll sign personally. Most reports, Arteta himself and Balogun's social media seem to indicate that he wants to stay.

The agent is notorious for leaving things to the last min, and the fact that since Orny's report others have come out to say that it's still up in the air suggests to me it's all an attempt to put the pressure on.

But we'll see.

jones

Ornstein has reinvented himself to be fair to him. Used to be gospel then as reliable as a crackhead, now he's reliable again in that the opposite of whatever he's reporting always comes true

goon

Orny has gone from being a mouthpiece for the club to being a mouthpiece for agents.

Klaus

I think Ornstein still receives info from the same sources (and some of them were probably always agents), he just has fewer of them around now.

Fabrizio strikes me as the one who's making a career out of reporting every bit of information that an agent feeds him.

Qwiss

He had to pivot after Gaizidis left. From that point on you could see all the club were feeding him was what they wanted the official line to be. They outright lie to him on transfers.

speedy

Qwiss! wrote:
He had to pivot after Gaizidis left. From that point on you could see all the club were feeding him was what they wanted the official line to be. They outright lie to him on transfers.

Aye everyone is using everyone. Agents have deals with journalists to get stories printed, good papers wont trust agents that feed them unthruths. But agents will bend the trusth to suit them and their client. Even trustable sources arent completely trustable.

QuincyAbeyie

I understand Balogun if he leaves. The sentiment among some seems to be that he should sign if he wants to play, but surely the other way makes more sense. He shouldn't commit long-term before knowing that he has a place here.

Clrnc

We only have ourselves to blame if he leaves. I have no doubts he is going to be a really good player and goalscorer, talent is too obvious.

We should be giving him more games and assurance by now.

MistaT

Auba > Laca > Martinelli > Nketiah are all in his way.

No surprise he's skeptical of minutes.

Probably need to sell him on his importance with a decent salary and a prominent loan. Or, head the buyback route. By next season I'd imagine Laca and/or Nketiah won't be in his way, and Marti may be set as a LWF.

Claudius

It’s hard to be critical of either him or the team here. We just have too many players. It would’ve been ideal to sign some of these players and loan them out.
What you have to believe with this guy is that he is definitely better than Nketiah and should’ve been prioritized over him. Is that really true?

QuincyAbeyie

People have been wanting him to play more over Nketiah for at least a of months. I definitely think it would've helped in making him stay if he was ahead of Nketiah and had been for a while.

Ray

Arteta too slow to react with another young player?

Rohit

Arteta has his flaws but he isn't the one that allowed Balogun's contract to be run down. There may be question marks over his man management style but he didn't marginalize Balogun for sitting on the extension. Balogun was always on the fringes of the first team, but Arteta isn't obliged to play him if he believes there is a bigger chance of Arsenal winning games right now with Nketiah leading the line.

Klaus

Quincy Abeyie wrote:
People have been wanting him to play more over Nketiah for at least a of months. I definitely think it would've helped in making him stay if he was ahead of Nketiah and had been for a while.

Why should he though? Eddie kept scoring when he got a chance. Young players can't just demand to come in and start. When Eddie broke through he had an even better impact than Balogun, scoring twice against Norwich. He's had to be patient for years since then and wait for an opportunity, and when he got it he repaid with goals, both for Arsenal and internationally. It's how things go with young players. Balogun looks like he's exactly where he should be on that curve. At 19 he's starting to get opportunities, has immediately showed that he deserves more of them, and is starting to get them.

There are always those who decide they can't wait and up and leave. Some turn out like Xavier Amaechi and Chris Willock, some like Malen. If Balogun is looking at Arsenal currently with two main strikers over 30 and Nketiah ahead of him and thinks the path to the first team is shut then he's being impatient. There's nothing preventing him from signing and then going on loan either.

Clrnc

I think there are like 4 or 4 games Balogun could have came on in the UEL much earlier than the last 10 minutes. And should have started the dead rubber games. Oh well what's done is done.

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