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lorddulaarsenal

Only really Tierney would impact the squad of those listed.

We’ve been linked to so many attacking mids. I can see us going for SMS.

Sicario2

goon

He’s had like 10/15 mins of play since the New Year. Hardly has any time to prove himself.

If it wasn’t for ESR, Arteta would probably be out of a job.

He’s much better and more proven than Vieria, need to bring him on a lot more.

goon

Sicario2

Preaching to the choir, I’m one of his biggest fans.

Just offering up an explanation. Fwiw I think he should be used a lot more, but he needs to make every min count to make an impression. It’s not easy to win mins in this side.

Qwiss

MistaT Don't forget Lokonga and AMN

MistaT

Qwiss -- I've certainly forgotten AMN.....

Doc

Still not convinced ESR is an 8, although admittedly it's looking increasingly likely that is how Arteta sees him.. Think he is still more suited to the other AM positions with his pass and move game.. Any minutes is good for him I suppose..

KingslandBarge

He's got it in him, especially off the ball movement and engine as an 8. Third man runs are great and he knows how to get in scoring positions. He'd need more playing time to understand how to distribute in that role, developing those pictures so he has a good idea of what to do before he receives the ball. His speed of thought is too dependent on form and confidence. He'll need to demonstrate some comfort with a playing framework to fallback on even on his shit days if that makes sense. It's relatively more embedded for the left-side attacking role.

Qwiss

Way better than Vieira. Even during his surgery.

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

I'd like to see him as our 10 in a classic 4231 for a couple of games behind Trossard. Would do damage with his running beyond.

Whole system needs a shakeup.

JazzG

Qwiss

Are we supposed to just take vague posts from random twitter twats as fact?

Clrnc

Qwiss Arteta always talks about attitude, and the last few times he banished players it was because of attitude. Won't be rocket science after hearing what he said about ESR last pre match

JazzG

Qwiss No we shouldn't but DarrenArsenal1 clearly does have some links within the club so him saying that is a bit different from a random Twitter post.

Qwiss

Clrnc he said he's pushing hard. Doesn't sound like something he'd say about someone with a poor attitude.

Clrnc

Qwiss “It’s about what you do now, what you do yesterday and what you do tomorrow. The player has to have that mindset and the contribution has to be now to the team, it has to make us better and to make us win games.

Just reading between the lines why would Arteta suddenly say this

Burnwinter

Clrnc Qwiss “It’s about what you do now, what you do yesterday and what you do tomorrow. The player has to have that mindset and the contribution has to be now to the team, it has to make us better and to make us win games.

Just reading between the lines why w

Another simple interpretation: we've got a number of players who aren't getting minutes. So Arteta takes a question about Smith Rowe, and uses that player—a safe and clear example since he's widely beloved and has previously been established in the first team, so it's probably not going to destroy his confidence—to signal that he's always the boss, and that it's always the unused players' job to stay fit and hungry.

You can read between the lines many different ways. One thing we do know is that Arteta hasn't said "Smith Rowe has an attitude problem".

Bring Back Kerrea Gilbert

I still don't know how to read that to be honest. Lol.

lorddulaarsenal

Well he’s not saying that he isn’t fit, so it’s a case of him not liking something about Smith Rowe. Maybe attitude but I strongly suspect it’s his play style not being a good fit.

Might get more minutes in the closing stages of the season, particularly if we’ve fallen away in the title race. Fatten him up for the market.

Qwiss

If he's actually 100% fit there is no reason to be throwing away the league title giving Vieira minutes instead. Arteta has a lot of blind spots and it's always felt like ESR was one of them.

Big Willie

Qwiss If he's actually 100% fit there is no reason to be throwing away the league title giving Vieira minutes instead. Arteta has a lot of blind spots and it's always felt like ESR was one of them.

Yeah, even last season when ESR was our top scorer in a hot run of form, he was suddenly taken out of the starting lineup, and was hardly used.

Don Pacifico

Big Willie wasn't that because he was nursing the injury that eventually took him out at the start of the season? Seems as though it was a longstanding challenge that they were trying to manage.

goon

Big Willie he was carrying an injury.

The irony is before he was relegated to the bench people were saying Arteta hated Martinelli. Arteta just doesn’t mess around with a lineup much, when you’re in you’re in.

Those Arteta comments are in reference to impact on games, surely? It’s right there in the quotes, helping us win games. I’m just not sure how he’s supposed to do that off the bench. I actually wonder if he’s being held back to light a fire under him.

Big Willie

Don Pacifico wasn't that because he was nursing the injury that eventually took him out at the start of the season?

Could be. Maybe he really was struggling and needed that surgery. Doesn't explain what's been happening since he's been back though. That's baffling.

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