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Who would you get to replace Arteta?

mdgoonah41

allardyce is available. and a better manager than arteta

Big Willie

I'd take Aumunia the inanimate carbon rod as manager ahead of Arteta at this point. He's so far out his depth it's not even funny.

Gazza M

pellegrini as a 1 or 2 season caretaker wouldn't be awful. he'll steady the ship and play a brand of football the players are comfortable with. epl experienced too. then watch like a hawk for the next big coach to become available

AAStyle

Pellegrini? I'm in

Anzac

mdgoonah41 wrote:
allardyce is available. and a better manager than arteta

Don't like his football.

Anzac

goon wrote:
Pretty sure both Potter and even Rodgers would take the job. I’d be surprised if Ten Hag turned us down too. Whether any or all of these guys would move mid season is another question.

The season is only 3 games old.

EDIT - IMO Edu has to go as well as we haven't cleared the deadwood and we haven't got a spine that is fit for purpose, let alone a match day squad.
That being the case I'd look to get a top DoF who is compatible with the Manager in terms of style of play so we can at least get our ducks lined up for Jan.

Captain

Just get him out.

Anzac

Captain wrote:
Just get ~~him~~ them out.

Fixed for you. ;D

Gunner89

Potter please

Anzac

IMO it's too late to get someone who is at another club/currently employed, so I'll take Favre now as he is available, and I'd take the former Monaco DoF.

Clrnc

Favre is utter bullshit. Another spineless manager. Everywhere he went he bottled and failed. No way. We need to start having coaches who have a back bone who plays like a big club and not concede stupid goals. We have one that often let in goals out of nowhere, get red card out of nowhere and seldom ever score any goal out of nowhere.

Just pay big money for Ruben Amorim and get Pedro Goncalves and Pedro Porro along the way.

GooneriC

As usual we missed the boat when it was time.for a change and now our options are close to zero.
I wouldn't mind Favre until the end of the season , we are conceding goals under safe mode man anyway so might as well get some attacking play going.

DKGooner

Top choice would be Potter as has current experience of managing in the Premier League alongside being very clear in style of play. For where we are in the table and confidence of our players, I think he is the right fit. The other plus point is that he is already familiar with Ben White so would be better placed to create a backline around our £50m signing.

While Allardyce would be an improvement on Arteta, his abrasive personality and sniping at us during the Wenger years puts me off having him anywhere near the club. Otherwise domestically, the only possible options are probably Howe, Rodgers and Hasenhuttl. Rodgers would stabilise us, but not sure he would leave Leicester just yet. The other two I feel might be overwhelmed with turning around our current situation.

However, I don't want Arteta to manage another game for us ever so chances are, we might have to look at caretaker options as well. There doesn't appear to be any candidates internally to step up. Mertersacker maybe but he has been overseeing the youth teams rather than managing. Could we persuade Henry to cover or entice Ljungberg back. Even Sol Campbell might be okay for a short stint as no stranger to managing near the foot of the table.

mentalvortex

No to Henry. He is an extremely mediocre manager as shown by his stints at Monaco and Montral.

I don't want his legacy here tarnished by a failed stint as a manager.

Kel Varnsen

Arteta won't get fired. Our clueless owners, and whoever is in charge right now and even some of the fans, will think this is "long term thinking". Arteta just needs time.. We might even pick up a few points in the next couple of matches and the most clueless of fans will think Arteta has turned it around. Again. Only to get beaten comfortably as soon as we play a semi-competent team.

mentalvortex

There is not enough time for him though.

NLD is only two matches away and we all know what the result/performance is going to be.

DKGooner

mentalvortex wrote:
No to Henry. He is an extremely mediocre manager as shown by his stints at Monaco and Montral.

I don't want his legacy here tarnished by a failed stint as a manager.

Agree that he wouldn't get the job full time on merit, but for a short stint might be fine. Would help improve the atmosphere around the club as can't be any worse than Arteta so doubt he could do anything to tarnish his reputation if limited to a few matches as caretaker. Thought a possibility as might be willing to do it alongside his assistant manager role at Belgium.

DKGooner

Kel Varnsen wrote:
Arteta won't get fired. Our clueless owners, and whoever is in charge right now and even some of the fans, will think this is "long term thinking". Arteta just needs time.. We might even pick up a few points in the next couple of matches and the most clueless of fans will think Arteta has turned it around. Again. Only to get beaten comfortably as soon as we play a semi-competent team.

Even the board are not that stupid to not be considering removing him. Easier (and cheaper) to change a manager than pretty much half a squad which seems to be the condition of Arteta staying on. Behind the scenes, I am sure they are busy evaluating the mood of the players and whether relationship between them and manager is salvageable. The uncertainty around Edu's future doesn't help. It's possible that if Edu is close to being removed, the potential replacements for him could be sounded out for their views on the manager position. Would imagine this could happen once the transfer window shuts.

SAGunner

I think we need an interim manager for the time being, to tick us over until our back office is in order. For that you go for a coach like Favre, who would get us climbing the table again, and possibly competing for fourth spot if he works his magic. We dont need a perfect choice now, just someone available and who can get these players believing in themselves again.

Sign Favre up for this season and a possible second season, and then get to work on hiring Rangnick, or Campos, perhaps bringing Mislintat back, Overmars, and work on building the club management structures again. Thereafter you go for a Potter, Rodgers, Ten Hag, Rose/Nagelsman, Fonseca, De Zerbi, who can stay for a little longer and do a job for us.

We dont need to try and win the title now, we arent ready for that. Lets stabilise first.

SAGunner

DK Gooner wrote:
Kel Varnsen wrote:
Arteta won't get fired. Our clueless owners, and whoever is in charge right now and even some of the fans, will think this is "long term thinking". Arteta just needs time.. We might even pick up a few points in the next couple of matches and the most clueless of fans will think Arteta has turned it around. Again. Only to get beaten comfortably as soon as we play a semi-competent team.

Even the board are not that stupid to not be considering removing him. Easier (and cheaper) to change a manager than pretty much half a squad which seems to be the condition of Arteta staying on. Behind the scenes, I am sure they are busy evaluating the mood of the players and whether relationship between them and manager is salvageable. The uncertainty around Edu's future doesn't help. It's possible that if Edu is close to being removed, the potential replacements for him could be sounded out for their views on the manager position. Would imagine this could happen once the transfer window shuts.

The first thing that came to mind when seeing Willian "tearing up his contract" was that things not being good behind the scenes. Add to that the body language and attitude of our players against City, and it seems to me that there is already a lost hope atmosphere by some players in the squad.

Its a question of saving face now, if I had to guess here. Imagine sacking a manager who you just backed quite substantially before a window closes. The optics of that makes the decision makers look very incompetent, and I think this plays on the decision makers minds.

Its over for Arteta, I dont see him coming back from this. The question on my mind is whether our time wasting would cost us again, in the new manager department.

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