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  • Match Thread | Arsenal vs Man City | League cup QF| Dec 22 8PM GMT

Pretty sure Hein or Macey are better goalies than this guy.

Colour me surprised. We all knew Runarsson would cost us big and he did. Joke of a signing, joke of a player, joke of a club.

Bosscielny wrote:
swider wrote:

That explains why you do not remember last season 🙂. Jokes aside he was happy to bench Martinez last season and play total amateur in cups this season, wtf?

Any chance he saw Martinez get thrown in the deep end after Leno went down and decided he’d better make sure his keepers get match practise?

Runnarson didn’t have too much to do in the Europa League games, so maybe he thought this would be the last chance in a while to see what this guy’s got.

I do not care what he was thinking, I know what I have seen today, and that was a performance below any professional level, if you disagree, then let's agree to disagree.

I missed the game, but I was glad to see that Smith-Rowe and Balogun got a few minutes. I actually thought we were going to get tonked worse tonight based on our form lately, so I don't really know how to approach this result. It makes you feel tired I guess, like we've already had to endure a season's worth of disappointment in December.

Klaus wrote:

I missed the game, but I was glad to see that Smith-Rowe and Balogun got a few minutes. I actually thought we were going to get tonked worse tonight based on our form lately, so I don't really know how to approach this result. It makes you feel tired I guess, like we've already had to endure a season's worth of disappointment in December.

Worth watching the highlights to see the 1.5 million pound man in action.

Klaus wrote:

I missed the game, but I was glad to see that Smith-Rowe and Balogun got a few minutes. I actually thought we were going to get tonked worse tonight based on our form lately, so I don't really know how to approach this result. It makes you feel tired I guess, like we've already had to endure a season's worth of disappointment in December.

You are missing out a lot Klaus. This game literally sums up banter era for Arsenal. Please download it and watch it, at least suffer together.

By the way if anyone is interested Arteta says we were the better team for half an hour.

Clrnc wrote:

By the way if anyone is interested Arteta says we were the better team for half an hour.

Did he pull out the StatDNA summary as proof?

deardevil wrote:
Klaus wrote:

I missed the game, but I was glad to see that Smith-Rowe and Balogun got a few minutes. I actually thought we were going to get tonked worse tonight based on our form lately, so I don't really know how to approach this result. It makes you feel tired I guess, like we've already had to endure a season's worth of disappointment in December.

Worth watching the highlights to see the 1.5 million pound man in action.

Clrnc wrote:

You are missing out a lot Klaus. This game literally sums up banter era for Arsenal. Please download it and watch it, at least suffer together.

I've got it recorded but I'm gonna let it stew for a while I think. It feels good for once to just have to deal with a few seconds of stinging disappointment when I saw the result versus the 90 minutes of constant disappointment that our games usually offer.

How did Marty play? Any reason he only got 49 minutes today?

Marti was great. Picked up a knock and had to go off, probably impact.

Klaus wrote:
deardevil wrote:

Worth watching the highlights to see the 1.5 million pound man in action.

Clrnc wrote:

You are missing out a lot Klaus. This game literally sums up banter era for Arsenal. Please download it and watch it, at least suffer together.

I've got it recorded but I'm gonna let it stew for a while I think. It feels good for once to just have to deal with a few second's of stinging disappointment when I saw the result versus the 90 minutes of constant disappointment that our games usually offer.

How did Marty play? Any reason he only got 49 minutes today?

The game was horrible, Klaus. It's one of the worst football displays I have ever seen. We spent the first 30 minutes struggling to complete passes to each other and it looked like we would be tonked. And then Gaby came alive, showed really quality to deliver two beautiful crosses in quick succession, the second of which led to the goal. 

Shortly thereafter, the City goalkeeper scythed him down on a counter. Could've been a red. Gaby, lay in agony, cried and was attended to by the club medics for a long time. He saw out the remaining 3 minutes of the first half but was subbed 3 minutes after the interval, again raising questions about how we treat our players. 

The second half was just City running through us even though they were in 3rd gear. ESR came on for a while and looked decent. Other than that, we just looked like we receive no coaching whatsoever. 

goon wrote:

Marti was great. Picked up a knock and had to go off, probably impact.

Don't help Klaus. Give him the full story.

Got a knock from an awful tackle, was literally crying and couldn't continue. Hobbled off, we forced him to continue in the 2nd half and he broke down within minutes of it. Like how we treated Partey

Klaus wrote:

I missed the game, but I was glad to see that Smith-Rowe and Balogun got a few minutes. I actually thought we were going to get tonked worse tonight based on our form lately, so I don't really know how to approach this result. It makes you feel tired I guess, like we've already had to endure a season's worth of disappointment in December.

You have to watch the goals at least, our goalkeeper was something else today, another level.

Clrnc wrote:
goon wrote:

Marti was great. Picked up a knock and had to go off, probably impact.

Don't help Klaus. Give him the full story.

Got a knock from an awful tackle, was literally crying and couldn't continue. Hobbled off, we forced him to continue in the 2nd half and he broke down within minutes of it. Like how we treated Partey

Eh, that's not how I quite saw it. 

It was an aggressive tackle but within the goalie's rights, and it's speculative to say "we forced him to continue". Sure, we could have told him he wasn't playing but I'd imagine Martinelli was the one advocating to play, more so than Arteta who could easily replace him with Pepe.

shows how much attention I've paid this. didn't realise this was a home game

Arteta says Saliba can't be played today because he is not in the squad. Surely that's wrong?

On the bright side, at least we didn't pay 80M Eur for Runarsson like Chelsea for Arrizabalaga.

In any case, if Leno picks an injury is game over for us. Things could get worse than Cannibal Holocaust.

Clrnc wrote:
goon wrote:

Marti was great. Picked up a knock and had to go off, probably impact.

Don't help Klaus. Give him the full story.

Got a knock from an awful tackle, was literally crying and couldn't continue. Hobbled off, we forced him to continue in the 2nd half and he broke down within minutes of it. Like how we treated Partey

That's a rather toxic interpretation of the facts. For all we know,  the medical staff gave him a choice and he pressured them to play. Or maybe that didn't happen. Understand everything to do with us is pretty dire right now and not fun to watch but think we can all benefit from dialling the venom down a notch.

AAStyle- wrote:

On the bright side, at least we didn't pay 80M Eur for Runarsson like Chelsea for Arrizabalaga.

In any case, if Leno picks an injury is game over for us. Things could get worse than Cannibal Holocaust.

Absolutely, so when people say we've hit rock bottom, they don't know what that means. Rock bottom is lying 24th in EFL League 2. If Runarsson gets any meaningful playing time this season, you can kiss Premier League football goodbye. That guy was not even playing for a team that finished 16th in Ligue 1 last season and we bought him knowing full well our second choice keeper will get significant minutes during the season.

MistaT wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Don't help Klaus. Give him the full story.

Got a knock from an awful tackle, was literally crying and couldn't continue. Hobbled off, we forced him to continue in the 2nd half and he broke down within minutes of it. Like how we treated Partey

Eh, that's not how I quite saw it. 

It was an aggressive tackle but within the goalie's rights, and it's speculative to say "we forced him to continue". Sure, we could have told him he wasn't playing but I'd imagine Martinelli was the one advocating to play, more so than Arteta who could easily replace him with Pepe.

That could be true too, but it would then be very worrying our medical staffs listen to the players rather than their own medical judgement.

And generally that's not how it works. The medical staff and manager always have the final say and decide whether it's worth the risk.

Clrnc wrote:

Arteta says Saliba can't be played today because he is not in the squad. Surely that's wrong?

Blame Edu. None of the Fortnite gang can play.

"A registered player is one who would be registered and eligible to participate in a Premier League match and/or League Match commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Competition match."

Claudius wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Arteta says Saliba can't be played today because he is not in the squad. Surely that's wrong?

Blame Edu. None of the Fortnite gang can play.

"A registered player is one who would be registered and eligible to participate in a Premier League match and/or League Match commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Competition match."

How was he eligible to be on the bench against Leicester in the previous round then?

Was before the window closed and so before final registration.

Even if we register him, there are far too many players here. We need send Mustafi and Chambers away on loan. Then we can be sure Saliba will get significant minutes. Should do same with Cedric. He leaves me cold. Has nothing. Cedric, Willian. All these veterans who don’t bring a special ability and take up minutes a high potential kid could use

No lessons were learned, nothing new happened, no silver linings were sighted. The situation remains the same. We are in limbo until Arteta is sacked.

MistaT wrote:
Clrnc wrote:

Don't help Klaus. Give him the full story.

Got a knock from an awful tackle, was literally crying and couldn't continue. Hobbled off, we forced him to continue in the 2nd half and he broke down within minutes of it. Like how we treated Partey

Eh, that's not how I quite saw it. 

It was an aggressive tackle but within the goalie's rights, and it's speculative to say "we forced him to continue". Sure, we could have told him he wasn't playing but I'd imagine Martinelli was the one advocating to play, more so than Arteta who could easily replace him with Pepe.

Agree on the tackle but disagree on how we dealt with it. We acted like the knock had happened to someone who's been fit. When a player has been out that long and in his first start back you don't push through it, you be careful and taje him off.

If we revised history and said Martinelli cost 72 million whilst Pepe cost 6 million. Would anyone bat an eyelid?

Missed this match planning to watch it on delayed live coverage with the game already downloaded. Came on here just to read the regular threads whilst avoiding the match day thread and the first thing I read is a post by Claude saying we got tonked. Glad I won't have to waste two hours of my time watching now.

Big Willie wrote:

Missed this match planning to watch it on delayed live coverage with the game already downloaded. Came on here just to read the regular threads whilst avoiding the match day thread and the first thing I read is a post by Claude saying we got tonked. Glad I won't have to waste two hours of my time watching now.

Well, everybody was laughing at some point, so you wouldn't waste two hours. Our second choice goalie is absolutely special, I do not think any other team from premierleague to league two has a goalkeeper of this quality. You rob yourself of experience, not enjoyable one but still unique.

Big Willie wrote:

Missed this match planning to watch it on delayed live coverage with the game already downloaded. Came on here just to read the regular threads whilst avoiding the match day thread and the first thing I read is a post by Claude saying we got tonked. Glad I won't have to waste two hours of my time watching now.

Don’t. Seriously. Go on BeIN and find 5 minute highlights to see how bad our goalie is. You don’t want to sit through 90 minutes of us not knowing how to pass

Well now, that was one of the worst things I've ever seen apart from Martinelli's 12 seconds of decent football playing.

This has to end.

I have not been angry when watching us since the Villa game, hell, yesterday I was laughing my ass off while watching....but that move by Kolasniac drove me mad. Such a simple pass as well, how the hell can he not spot it? or be able to pull it off. fuck off

HomeSteak wrote:

I have not been angry when watching us since the Villa game, hell, yesterday I was laughing my ass off while watching....but that move by Kolasniac drove me mad. Such a simple pass as well, how the hell can he not spot it? or be able to pull it off. fuck off

Kolasinac is a useless lump of muscle. 

Didn't watch the second half, so Martinelli is injured again? Is it bad?

sounds like just an impact injury, but it probably rules him out for chelsea

HomeSteak wrote:

I have not been angry when watching us since the Villa game, hell, yesterday I was laughing my ass off while watching....but that move by Kolasniac drove me mad. Such a simple pass as well, how the hell can he not spot it? or be able to pull it off. fuck off

There’s no way he didn’t see him. As shit as he is, just no way. The only conclusion I can make is that he chose not to play that pass. In any case, he needs to be sent packing along with the rest of the dross.

He's an abysmal footballer. It astounds me that Wenger/the club rated him, even for a free transfer.

I wanted to post that clip to trigger Klaus, Homesteak is way too fast.

Lol. Kola was just looking ahead into the future where he’d be able to make a tackle out of a goal scoring opportunity. Good job.

Openings like these, where we can send the ball through the middle pop up within the course of our games a few times, and we always, without fail, choose to go the safe route into the horse shoe dead end.

That’s why our xG and chance creation has plummeted, and while I recognize the limitations of our players, I have to ask the question about what the manager instructs them to do. That action or choice by Kola seems like it’s been drilled into him... we see that scenario far too often with different players for it to be a coincindence.

flobaba wrote:

Lol. Kola was just looking ahead into the future where he’d be able to make a tackle out of a goal scoring opportunity. Good job.

Openings like these, where we can send the ball through the middle pop up within the course of our games a few times, and we always, without fail, choose to go the safe route into the horse shoe dead end.

That’s why our xG and chance creation has plummeted, and while I recognize the limitations of our players, I have to ask the question about what the manager instructs them to do. That action or choice by Kola seems like it’s been drilled into him... we see that scenario far too often with different players for it to be a coincindence.

Yes. I mentioned it enough, but we don't do one touch passes anymore, everything is about body shape and how we receive the ball taking a first touch first and being safe to pass back. It's definitely designed on purpose and the safety first mentality is costing us big time over time. We have been coached in a way it has slowly deteriorated and gutted the players mentality, restricting their creativity and freedom. It's not a coincidence after more months of such coaching we have finally reached such stage.